Maurice Stovall

[theshark08 0]

where does everyone think he'll go? i've seen anywhere from late 1st to mid 3rd. i say he goes 2nd round to the Steelers, which would be a great fit for him.

 

Thoughts?

[dangeruss 6]

i hope he goes to the Pats and replaces david givens.

[theshark08 0]

True, would be a good fit there also. He has the basic idea of the playbook. They might differ from NE to ND. NE may have a few different schemes. Good idea, love to see that happen too.

[GwoodND 0]

Some of the experts say he will be going on the first day and say that he will be a 3rd round pick unless his stock is still rising.

[Guest bluester2000]

Hate to go on yet another Tyrade, but I was one of Stovall's biggest supporters and later detractors (the later I blame entirely of Tyrone Fraudingham). It was frustrating to see the flashes of brillance we did when he was a freshman, yet nothing concrete the following two years. Honestly, Ty was a freaking wide receiver at a legit collegiate program. Meanwhile Charlie had nothing to do the football team when he was a student. It's shocking that Charlie could get more out of Mo than Tyrone.

 

Stovall's first paycheck needs to go to Hanna and Friends, because I guarantee he wouldn't be seeing the kind of money he will be come April if not for Charlie. Speaking of which, that damned team has given me so much joy over the past 10 months of so, I should sent my next check to them. Too bad I'm poor.

[dangeruss 6]

It was frustrating to see the flashes of brillance we did when he was a freshman, yet nothing concrete the following two years.

i remember in stovalls freshman year against navy, it was like 4th and 10 or so when holiday threw a long jump ball down at the goalline and stovall out jumped two defenders for the ball.

[theshark08 0]

I think your reasons for saying that he is a product of a system have good grounds to them, but Tyrone could only be the kind of coach CW is in his dreams. It may be the system, or it could be that a good coach came in and actually developed and coached his players. Tyrone did neither of these as evidence of so many players have huge breakthroughs i.e. Brady Quinn, Jeff Samardzija, Mo Stovall, the o-line didn't give up near as many sacks this year. Basically it was the coach more than the system in my views. Charlie actually pushed Stovall and the rest of the team, got them in shape, and brought confidence to a team that "didn't have talent."

 

Or all the breakout players this year were just products of a system too. I can't see that though.

[theshark08 0]

It was frustrating to see the flashes of brillance we did when he was a freshman, yet nothing concrete the following two years.

i remember in stovalls freshman year against navy, it was like 4th and 10 or so when holiday threw a long jump ball down at the goalline and stovall out jumped two defenders for the ball.

 

I never saw that. Of course I never really paid attention until this year for some reason.

 

Where do you guys think he'd do better, Pittsburgh or New England. He'd do well in both, just wondering where you guys think he'd do better at.

[Guest irishrick]

stovall will go in the late second or early third round to the patroits, i agree he should donate a couple of bucks to hanna and friends. count on it. go irish.

[Guest gallup21]

ill say this-if any ND big name player, Quinn, Samardzija, Zibby, or Stovall, Darius, Anyone goes to the Pats ill become a Pats fan. ive never liked a NE team before even though i live here, but im willing to break that if an ND player comes here

[Guest irishrick]

hey Massachusetts wasn't givens from notre dame?

[theshark08 0]

ill say this-if any ND big name player, Quinn, Samardzija, Zibby, or Stovall, Darius, Anyone goes to the Pats ill become a Pats fan. ive never liked a NE team before even though i live here, but im willing to break that if an ND player comes here

 

I've never liked them either, just a few players on the team. But I'm with you, if any big ND guy goes to NE they'll have a new fan. Especially if it's Stovall this year and Quinn, Zibby, or The Shark next year.

[Guest bluester2000]

I don't think Stovall's success was a product of the system either. He's a phenominal talent that was being wasted by Tyrone. In my mind Stovall would have been the steal of this draft if Tyrone was given one more year. Charlie of course would have drafted him, and boom the success Stovall enjoyed this year would come a year or two later.

[Scotty88 0]

I agree, Mo's success can be partially accredited to Weis, a coach who motivated and got the best of him instead of being a friend or a "player's coach" like Ty. I have no bad feelings of Ty the man, he's friendly and seems like a dedicated man....but as a coach he couldn't light the fire.

[theshark08 0]

Hopefully the Steelers and Pats see that, and see that he's not a complete product of Weis and take him as soon as possible. He has great upside. I think he could end up like TO; resulpture his body, work on his speed and be TO without a bad attitude (not sure if Stovall can get as big as TO though).