*****The Official 2022 Week 6 Irish vs #16 BYU Gameday Thread*****

[FaithInIrishForever]

 

 

http://cfbstats.com/2022/team/77/index.html

 

http://cfbstats.com/2022/team/513/index.html

 

As you see BYU has had the better start statistically . Lets dive in farther though.

[FaithInIrishForever]

[FaithInIrishForever]

 

[FaithInIrishForever]

 

The guy that jumps off the page is QB Jaren Hall. 70 percent completion.

 

Source: https://www.espn.com/college-football/team/stats/_/id/252

[NYGoldenDomer]

Great insight as always, @FaithInIrishForever!!

[FaithInIrishForever]

1 hour ago, NYGoldenDomer said:

Great insight as always, @FaithInIrishForever!!

Thanks. With no game right now. I have some extra time to do this. As you see in BYU's loss At Oregon the Ducks were able to run the ball and stop the run. ND did that last time out vs UNC so it might be good timing to play BYU. Like UNC, BYU has quite a QB and quite a passing game, BYU QB Hall gets alot of receivers involved.

The real noticeable difference to me in BYU and UNC is the defense. BYU plays more of a 3-3-5 look it seems so there will be an extra backer out there to try to block. ND wasn't good at that vs Ohio State so lets hope their working on blocking the 3 man odd front this week.

Source: https://www.espn.com/college-football/boxscore?gameId=401403989

[Show Me The Irishman]

I did my undergrad at Utah State and Just got my masters at ND.

Seeing that my previous Alma Mater just played byu, I’m happy to give a breakdown to my fellow Domers of byu’s position groups.

I’ll start with the offense:

- QB - Jaren Hall. The kid is a first round NFL prospect, and as much as I hate to say it, he’s as good as advertised. He’s mobile, accurate, accurate on the run, and has a BIG arm. I’ve seen videos of him throwing a 70 yard ball coming out of high school. If he has time, he’ll pick us apart. The one flaw in his game is that his accuracy decreases substantially when he’s under duress. Getting a solid pass rush will be critical for the Irish to win.

- OL - On paper, they should be one of the better units in the country, but they haven’t done as well this year as their fans hoped they would have. We’ll see if that continues. If they play the same way they did against Utah State, the Irish D-line should win this match up handily.

- WR - Their top three guys (in order) are Puka Nakua, who has been injured all year. If he’s healthy, he’ll be their biggest weapon. After that Gunner Romney is their speed receiver, then Keanu Hill is a solid #3. They have some decent tight ends, but nothing like Michael Mayer. Overall this group is decent, but they’re no where near the talent as the what we saw against Ohio State.

-RB - they have a good Thunder/Lightning combo with Brooks and David, but they’re only as good as their offensive line allows them to be.

I expect them to run some trick plays on us, especially a reverse —> flee flicker play they tend to run once a game. However, if we can win the battle in the trenches. I don’t see byu scoring more than 17 points on us.

As for their defense, the strength of their unit is their LB’s. Their D-line is big and are used to absorb blocks to let their LB’s make the plays. However, they’re not quite as big and strong as they were in years past. Ever since their stud NG Khyris Tonga graduated, they haven’t been anywhere near as imposing.

They have very little pass rush. Their D-line will just try to bull rush the opposing team’s to get pressure. It works on some teams, but I don’t see it working on us.

For their coverage, they like to drop 8 defenders a lot which causes impatient Qb’s to fit passes in tight windows. They essentially live by the “bend don’t break” philosophy. They don’t get beat deep much, but they do allow a lot of passes underneath, so expect Michael Mayer to have a big day.

As for their special teams, their field goal kicker has become a head case. He’s missing a lot of easy kicks. It’s to the point where byu fans started booing him. Kind of sad really.

If ND can win the battle in the trenches, get pressure on Hall, and be patient enough on offense to sustain long drives, we should win the game by 2-3 Touchdowns.  
 

Go Irish!

[NYGoldenDomer]

4 minutes ago, Show Me The Irishman said:

I did my undergrad at Utah State and Just got my masters at ND.

Seeing that my previous Alma Mater just played byu, I’m happy to give a breakdown to my fellow Domers of byu’s position groups.

I’ll start with the offense:

- QB - Jaren Hall. The kid is a first round NFL prospect, and as much as I hate to say it, he’s as good as advertised. He’s mobile, accurate, accurate on the run, and has a BIG arm. I’ve seen videos of him throwing a 70 yard ball coming out of high school. If he has time, he’ll pick us apart. The one flaw in his game is that his accuracy decreases substantially when he’s under duress. Getting a solid pass rush will be critical for the Irish to win.

- OL - On paper, they should be one of the better units in the country, but they haven’t done as well this year as their fans hoped they would have. We’ll see if that continues. If they play the same way they did against Utah State, the Irish D-line should win this match up handily.

- WR - Their top three guys (in order) are Puka Nakua, who has been injured all year. If he’s healthy, he’ll be their biggest weapon. After that Gunner Romney is their speed receiver, then Keanu Hill is a solid #3. They have some decent tight ends, but nothing like Michael Mayer. Overall this group is decent, but they’re no where near the talent as the what we saw against Ohio State.

-RB - they have a good Thunder/Lightning combo with Brooks and David, but they’re only as good as their offensive line allows them to be.

I expect them to run some trick plays on us, especially a reverse —> flee flicker play they tend to run once a game. However, if we can win the battle in the trenches. I don’t see byu scoring more than 17 points on us.

As for their defense, the strength of their unit is their LB’s. Their D-line is big and are used to absorb blocks to let their LB’s make the plays. However, they’re not quite as big and strong as they were in years past. Ever since their stud NG Khyris Tonga graduated, they haven’t been anywhere near as imposing.

They have very little pass rush. Their D-line will just try to bull rush the opposing team’s to get pressure. It works on some teams, but I don’t see it working on us.

For their coverage, they like to drop 8 defenders a lot which causes impatient Qb’s to fit passes in tight windows. They essentially live by the “bend don’t break” philosophy. They don’t get beat deep much, but they do allow a lot of passes underneath, so expect Michael Mayer to have a big day.

As for their special teams, their field goal kicker has become a head case. He’s missing a lot of easy kicks. It’s to the point where byu fans started booing him. Kind of sad really.

If ND can win the battle in the trenches, get pressure on Hall, and be patient enough on offense to sustain long drives, we should win the game by 2-3 Touchdowns.  
 

Go Irish!

Wonderful first post.  Welcome to DD!!

[FaithInIrishForever]

34 minutes ago, Show Me The Irishman said:

I did my undergrad at Utah State and Just got my masters at ND.

Seeing that my previous Alma Mater just played byu, I’m happy to give a breakdown to my fellow Domers of byu’s position groups.

I’ll start with the offense:

- QB - Jaren Hall. The kid is a first round NFL prospect, and as much as I hate to say it, he’s as good as advertised. He’s mobile, accurate, accurate on the run, and has a BIG arm. I’ve seen videos of him throwing a 70 yard ball coming out of high school. If he has time, he’ll pick us apart. The one flaw in his game is that his accuracy decreases substantially when he’s under duress. Getting a solid pass rush will be critical for the Irish to win.

- OL - On paper, they should be one of the better units in the country, but they haven’t done as well this year as their fans hoped they would have. We’ll see if that continues. If they play the same way they did against Utah State, the Irish D-line should win this match up handily.

- WR - Their top three guys (in order) are Puka Nakua, who has been injured all year. If he’s healthy, he’ll be their biggest weapon. After that Gunner Romney is their speed receiver, then Keanu Hill is a solid #3. They have some decent tight ends, but nothing like Michael Mayer. Overall this group is decent, but they’re no where near the talent as the what we saw against Ohio State.

-RB - they have a good Thunder/Lightning combo with Brooks and David, but they’re only as good as their offensive line allows them to be.

I expect them to run some trick plays on us, especially a reverse —> flee flicker play they tend to run once a game. However, if we can win the battle in the trenches. I don’t see byu scoring more than 17 points on us.

As for their defense, the strength of their unit is their LB’s. Their D-line is big and are used to absorb blocks to let their LB’s make the plays. However, they’re not quite as big and strong as they were in years past. Ever since their stud NG Khyris Tonga graduated, they haven’t been anywhere near as imposing.

They have very little pass rush. Their D-line will just try to bull rush the opposing team’s to get pressure. It works on some teams, but I don’t see it working on us.

For their coverage, they like to drop 8 defenders a lot which causes impatient Qb’s to fit passes in tight windows. They essentially live by the “bend don’t break” philosophy. They don’t get beat deep much, but they do allow a lot of passes underneath, so expect Michael Mayer to have a big day.

As for their special teams, their field goal kicker has become a head case. He’s missing a lot of easy kicks. It’s to the point where byu fans started booing him. Kind of sad really.

If ND can win the battle in the trenches, get pressure on Hall, and be patient enough on offense to sustain long drives, we should win the game by 2-3 Touchdowns.  
 

Go Irish!

Great post! Welcome to DomerDomain!

[Wharton70]

NYGD - Outstanding analysis and insight. Going by what you saw and reported, if coach Hiestand & coach Washington are as good as I think they are, they could really impact this game and as a result, the  trajectory of the season's results. Let's hope so. Thank you very much.

[SDIrishFan]

From what little I’ve seen, ND needs to run the ball first and foremost, establish drives let that open up The play action.

If they drop 8 consistently, we should be able to run all day. If we get over 200 yards rushing and play clean (. No turnovers, few penalties), we should win by 10+.

Hall will probably get his, but I read somewhere he’s had a history of concussions and is terrified of getting another one. If you can knock him around early, he’ll be looking more at the rush than downfield.

[jimbo]

8 hours ago, SDIrishFan said:

From what little I’ve seen, ND needs to run the ball first and foremost, establish drives let that open up The play action.

If they drop 8 consistently, we should be able to run all day. If we get over 200 yards rushing and play clean (. No turnovers, few penalties), we should win by 10+.

Hall will probably get his, but I read somewhere he’s had a history of concussions and is terrified of getting another one. If you can knock him around early, he’ll be looking more at the rush than downfield.

Yeah, I think we should be able to run on them for sure. Hope our D comes out on fire. 
 

Looking forward to seeing those new Shamrock Series uniforms in action!

[FaithInIrishForever]

@NYGoldenDomer if you have time would you check the title for consistency? I have an old school respiratory virus this weekend so I just converted the homework thread to the game thread

[ND_JACK]

Walking the streets of Vegas this afternoon I saw a lot of ND fans and very few BYU let’s hope that that carries over to the game attendance.  Btw I have seen BYU play this year and I would agree their offense is decent. The only offense position imho that looked better then ours was QB. And our defense looked much better then theirs especially the DL. If we can put pressure on their QB And I think we can …..we should be fine …..and like Show Me said their receivers are not nearly as talented as Ohio St. The Vegas line has ND a 4 point favorite I put half of my fun money on the Irish. I hope I’m not overly confident but if ND is going to turn this season around this is the game they need to prove it….UNC was not a very good team.

[Show Me The Irishman]

[NYGoldenDomer]

14 hours ago, FaithInIrishForever said:

@NYGoldenDomer if you have time would you check the title for consistency? I have an old school respiratory virus this weekend so I just converted the homework thread to the game thread

Feel better buddy

[ndomer4]

ND - 31

BYU- 27

[NYGoldenDomer]

15 minutes ago, ndomer4 said:

ND - 31

BYU- 27

I'll take it.  I am hoping for a better defensive showing than 27 points though.  However, I would be ecstatic with scoring 31.

[FaithInIrishForever]

Just now, NYGoldenDomer said:

I'll take it.  I am hoping for a better defensive showing than 27 points though.  However, I would be ecstatic with scoring 31.

need to get back to the 30's consistently. I've been between 28-21 and 31-21 myself for this game but i'm also hoping for BYU under 20 and I Never predict ND to lose a game so take my predictions with that in mind.

[Irish_Thunder]

37-28 Irish

They will make some big plays with those talented WR but our offensive line is going to wear them down and Pyne hits a big play to put them away. 

[Tailgate Approved]

34-17 Irish

[OKelleyIrish]

ESPN has ND 70%.

Big game for Freeman. Can't afford a slip. Keep the momentum. Get over .500.

Can we finish strong? Or .500ish

Challenging games - BYU16, at Syracuse22, Clemson5, USC6

Assumed wins - Stanford, UNLV, Navy, BC

[SpeedsterX]

I just want to see steady improvement throughout the games and the year. Especially the offense.

ND 35

BYU 21

[OKelleyIrish]

ND 34

BYU 30

 

[OKelleyIrish]

A buddy (BYU fan) sent this to me... lol