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1 hour ago, mcgov12 said:

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/34031158/notre-dame-update-victory-song-lyrics-include-daughters
 

 

glad we’re tackling the important issues and being inclusive in the fight song

Even the change won't be inclusive.  I mean, what about gender queer, gender fluid, and gender apathetic individuals?  Why are they left out?  Can't ND simply add another verse and some notes to be more inclusive?

 

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6 minutes ago, Tailgate Approved said:

It's been an unofficial practice among some students for years. It syncs up really well. After a few times running through it, it becomes second nature.

The daughters of Notre Dame deserve their mention, in my opinion.

ND women have been singing these lyrics for a few decades.  It's time to make it official I think.

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4 hours ago, AnTostal said:

ND women have been singing these lyrics for a few decades.  It's time to make it official I think.

I know it seems like I heard it forever now. My sister-in-law was in the first graduating class of ND women and it seems as though she has been singing it that way for a looooong time.

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My father was ND grad (I'm just a subway alumni) but he and I both support the change. 

When the song was written, ND was male-only. Now it is not (and hasn't been for 50 years). 

Having two girls and one boy involved in college sports (not at ND), I see no reason not to support sports played by both genders with the fight song.  Unless you want to write a new song to play just for women's sports.

 

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On 6/5/2022 at 3:05 PM, jbrown_9999 said:

Unless you want to write a new song to play just for women's sports.

 

Only if I get to write it. Who is more appropriate to immortalize (in song) the struggles and triumphs of women than a middle-age white guy?

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(Deep breath…) I get it…and it’s ok but was it necessary…really?

And my worry is this. Notre Dame might be the most liberal Catholic organization in the US. Do they keep adding to the song now?

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1 hour ago, edcubby said:

(Deep breath…) I get it…and it’s ok but was it necessary…really?

And my worry is this. Notre Dame might be the most liberal Catholic organization in the US. Do they keep adding to the song now?

Seems like a slam dunk to just add "other". So instead of "sons and daughters" it can be "sons and daughters and other". 

 

I like it, feels like it has a nice ring to it.

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2 hours ago, edcubby said:

(Deep breath…) I get it…and it’s ok but was it necessary…really?

And my worry is this. Notre Dame might be the most liberal Catholic organization in the US. Do they keep adding to the song now?

So adding daughters leads to adding other? 
 

Honestly… They didn’t NEED to add it, we were already singing it that way for decades 🤷‍♀️

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