OKelleyIrish Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 59 minutes ago, Dardo said: Does it matter that ND is currently 10+ spots above LSU currently in ‘22 and ‘23? Because currently that’s the case per 247. LSU had decommits. It's also early for them. I know that sounds funny, but it's true. They only 13 commits. We have 22. It's likely they will close strong and win back some of the kids they lost. And their AVG is just as good as ours. We're winning on total points (volume). They also have two 5 star kids vs our 1, and one of their two happens to be a QB. And don't even pay attention to 2023 yet... Bama has zero 2023 commits. LSU has 1. Clemson has 1. They'll all pick up the pace. We got out of the gates early. The football factories don't make near as many early offers like we do. They limit their early offers typically to the elite kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coltssb Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 19 minutes ago, Rocketsan said: I need to rescind my former statements… Haha. Yeah. Didn’t really go well after “The Waterboy.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbrown_9999 Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, NDLincPark said: I am glad you can 'see it flipping' But, factually and in reality (not make-believe) LSU is recruiting better players Kelly already has a 5 star QB coming into LSU next year, who has more talent and upside than any ND recruited QB in the last 35 years (Yes including Brady Quinn). Are you comparing Coach O's PAST recruiting at LSU (including that 5* QB) to Kelly's PAST recruiting at ND while NDfanatic is looking ahead to comparing Kelly's FUTURE LSU recruiting to Freeman's FUTURE ND recruiting? I know that if I needed to pick Kelly or Freeman as a recruiter, my money is on Freeman every time. Also, in past "35 years", ND had recruited Jimmy Clausen .9968, Dayne Crist .9886, and Gunner Kiel .9878 who all were rated above Walker Howard and his .9837 rating. Given that Walker Howard has not yet thrown one pass in college, high school star rankings about the only thing that can be used to compare talent at this point. (unless of course, you are qualified to professionally scout QB talent) Edited December 2, 2021 by jbrown_9999 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieAngel Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Rocketsan said: I need to rescind my former statements… Eep. Times like this that I pine for the simple days before HD cameras. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
napadomer Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, jbrown_9999 said: Are you comparing Coach O's PAST recruiting at LSU (including that 5* QB) to Kelly's PAST recruiting at ND while NDfanatic is looking ahead to comparing Kelly's FUTURE LSU recruiting to Freeman's FUTURE ND recruiting? I know that if I needed to pick Kelly or Freeman as a recruiter, my money is on Freeman every time. Also, in past "35 years", ND had recruited Jimmy Clausen .9968, Dayne Crist .9886, and Gunner Kiel .9878 who all were rated above Walker Howard and his .9837 rating. Given that Walker Howard has not yet thrown one pass in college, high school star rankings about the only thing that can be used to compare talent at this point. (unless of course, you are qualified to professionally scout QB talent) Good Point. LSU also had a can't miss 5* in Ryan Perrilloux .9968 (2005) Edited December 2, 2021 by napadomer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgov12 Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 1 hour ago, coltssb said: Haha. Yeah. Didn’t really go well after “The Waterboy.” Yikes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbrown_9999 Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 One potential silver lining of popular opinion being seemingly against Kelly leaving ND to go to LSU when still having a chance of ND making the CFP, is that it might give ND a de facto tie breaker versus LSU if the two schools are ever vying for the #4 position in the CFP while Kelly is coaching the Tigers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishGuy Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 5 hours ago, NDLincPark said: Kelly already has a 5 star QB coming into LSU next year, who has more talent and upside than any ND recruited QB in the last 35 years (Yes including Brady Quinn). Jimmy Clausen is on line 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pregame Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 5 hours ago, OKelleyIrish said: And don't even pay attention to 2023 yet... Bama has zero 2023 commits. LSU has 1. Clemson has 1. They'll all pick up the pace. We got out of the gates early. The football factories don't make near as many early offers like we do. They limit their early offers typically to the elite kids. The football factories absolutely get out and start recruiting kids early. This is common criticism of ND recruiting in the past that they were slow to start recruiting kids. Alabama has offered over 100 kids for the 2023 class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKelleyIrish Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 53 minutes ago, Pregame said: The football factories absolutely get out and start recruiting kids early. This is common criticism of ND recruiting in the past that they were slow to start recruiting kids. Alabama has offered over 100 kids for the 2023 class. FFs start recruiting kids early, but they don't offer (actual actionable offers) as many early. There's a big difference. Bama's normal MO is to typically offer about 100 kids from the year after next's class (in this case 2023). And the good majority of those kids are top 10 at position. And an offer, isn't always an offer lol. Or at least one they can accept and commit to right away. Bama and some of the bigs are all infamous for slow playing, pulling offers, grey shirting, etc. etc.. We always see the late 5 star commits typically fall to the regular suspects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattlesnake Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 I don't have time to go back through this thread.. or any of the 80 other threads about BK to see if this has been posted yet.. but this is honestly one of the funniest things I've ever seen. I can't stop watching it. Is he serious? How could this all be working out better for us? He's from Massachusetts and never coached in the south. Just.. *chef's kiss* for this asshole. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
97domer Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 (edited) (Edit: rattlesnake, it looks like you posted this minutes before me. If you want some more laughs, read the comments in the link that I posted. ) It seems like every news article I read as blast in Kelly. But that might just be the algorithm knowing I am pissed at him when I was listening to his press conference and his announcement in front of the players, I swear he was faking a southern accent. I miss one, it gets pretty bad and the comments are pretty funny! https://ftw.usatoday.com/lists/brian-kelly-southern-accent-lsu-twitter-reacts Edited December 3, 2021 by 97domer 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaithInIrishForever Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 He talks about developing players, I kinda get a sour taste, I feel like he likes his indvidual achievements alot. Staying until the record was his. His resume had a new top line Just alot feels like me first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattlesnake Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 10 minutes ago, 97domer said: (Edit: rattlesnake, it looks like you posted this minutes before me. If you want some more laughs, read the comments in the link that I posted. ) It seems like every news article I read as blast in Kelly. But that might just be the algorithm knowing I am pissed at him when I was listening to his press conference and his announcement in front of the players, I swear he was faking a southern accent. I miss one, it gets pretty bad and the comments are pretty funny! https://ftw.usatoday.com/lists/brian-kelly-southern-accent-lsu-twitter-reacts Yosemite Kelly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulpatch Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 14 hours ago, jbrown_9999 said: Also, in past "35 years", ND had recruited Jimmy Clausen .9968, Dayne Crist .9886, and Gunner Kiel .9878 who all were rated above Walker Howard and his .9837 rating. Given that Walker Howard has not yet thrown one pass in college, high school star rankings about the only thing that can be used to compare talent at this point. (unless of course, you are qualified to professionally scout QB talent) One thing's for certain, this move is a decided step down for Walker. Kelly's QB Whisperer vibe will not be doing that poor kid any favors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndfanatic78 Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 (edited) Holy crap. Listen to this guy. As phony as a $3 bill. Who is this man? Hadn't seen Rattlesnakes post when I added mine. Sorry for the repost. Edited December 3, 2021 by ndfanatic78 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasDomer Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 Y’all don’ unna-stan’….You get you a lil’ boudin, maybe some crawfish jambalaya, you jes’ can’t keep that inna Southanah from comin’ out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYGoldenDomer Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 Oh. My. Goodness. What a fucking tool. You fake ass bitch. Good riddance you egotistical pathetic man. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgov12 Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, NYGoldenDomer said: Oh. My. Goodness. What a fucking tool. You fake ass bitch. Good riddance you egotistical pathetic man. What. A. Fucking. Tool. Good riddance, have fun LSU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasDomer Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 Just wait until he gives a scholly to tha’ Watahboy! My momma says that Boston is the DEVIL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndmike88 Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 I hope and pray Kelly sinks lower than whale shit. What a phony. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishwavend Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 He talkin’ about that War of Northern Aggression.l, yet? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zemaniak Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 I’m loving this. True colors showing, his ex-assistants turning their backs to him. Karma is a sweet MF’ing bitch ! 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Fence Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 1 hour ago, NYGoldenDomer said: Oh. My. Goodness. What a fucking tool. You fake ass bitch. Good riddance you egotistical pathetic man. Lol - thought the same thing! It sounds like he is being roasted by LSU fans already who are probably saying the same thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish-scoop Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 I've been reading some of the LSU boards... they all seem pretty stoked to get a "well spoken coach".. one person even said, " Kelly is to smart for LSU, better part ways now" haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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