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#12 ND vs #18 Wisconsin - Game Preview and Poll


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#12 ND vs #18 Wisconsin - Game Preview and Poll  

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  1. 1. What's the outcome

    • ND by 20 or more
    • ND by 14-19
    • ND by 7-13
    • ND by 1-6
    • Wiscy by 1-6
    • Wiscy by 7-13
    • Wiscy by 14-19
    • Wiscy by 20 or more
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  2. 2. Who has the overall better game (yards, TDs, QBR, PR) ?

  3. 3. Coan throws for how much?


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#12 ND (3-0) vs #18 Wisconsin (1-1)

  • AKA The Coan Revenge Game
  • Time - Noon on Fox
  • Place - Soldier Field
  • Line: WISC -5.5
  • O/U: 46.5

 

  • Team General
    • -Played 2 games so far (1-1)
    • -Close loss to Penn State (16-10) who just beat Auburn
    • -Blow out of Eastern Michigan (34-7)
    • -Was one of the harder hit Covid teams last year, and there record (3-3) showed it.
  • Offense General
    • -2020 was their lowest scoring AVG in 15 years (25.1 PPG)
    • -Lot of staff changes in the offseason. New QB, RB, DL, and CB coaches
    • -HC Chryst goes back to play calling as well as QB coach
    • -Offensive line should be solid but was pretty meh last season. 
    • -Gave up 2 sacks vs PSU, and 3 total on the year so far (2 games)
  • Offense Passing
    • -Mertz sputtered after a hot start last year
    • -So far in 2021 (2 games), 0 TDs and 2 INTs for Mertz
    • -Top pass catchers returned
    • -Class of 2017 Danny Davis leads WRs with 129 on 11 catches
    • -TE Jake Fergeson leads TEs with 69 yards on 12 catches.
  • Offense Rushing
    • -Jonathan Taylor was gone... and Wiscy struggled last season.... 
    • -Class of 2019 RB and Clemson transfer, and one time ND recruit, Chez Mellusi has stepped in and taken the starting job. 144 on 20 carries (7.2) vs EMU, and 121 on 31 carries (3.9) vs PSU.
    • -2 other RBs, Guerendo (8.7) and Berger (4.1) are capable in the rotation. 
  • Defense General
    • -Led the B10 last season in total defense at a tick under 300 YPG. 
    • -DC Jim Leonhard flirted with the Packers (their DC position) in the offseason, but he opted to stay (or maybe didn't get the job). Regardless, he's good.
    • -Returned 8 of 11 starters
    • -Hank Poteat brought in to coach CBs. This group likely the needs the most improvement.
    • -ILB Sanborn is very solid managing the middle, but also are very productive blitzing.
  • Predictions
    • ND 17 / Wiscy 13
    • Ugly game. Neither offense will look good.
    • Coan is efficient, but not flashy vs his old team, and has just enough success vs Wiscy DBs to look better than Mertz.
    • Buchner delivers a few times with his legs, and one deep ball
    • Whoever wins the turnover battle, wins the game
    • Foskey delivers with multiple sacks on Mertz, and Kyle gets a key INT
    • BK goes purple at least twice
    • The board has a hissy-fit when Melusi breaks 100 yards
    • The board, after the win, forgets about our woes on D from the past 3 games, and turns their poo poo to Tommy for only scoring 17
    • PS - My alter ego keeps telling me Coan erupts for 300+ and 4 TDs, and the Irish roll 38-13 on the big stage.
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Nice write up, OKelly. I'm picking ND 31 - 13 for this one, I think they will pull away a bit in the 2nd half. I see the D coming together more and more each game. I don't think this will be the game ND gets the running game on track, the W defense is too tough for that. But there will be enough plays through the air to offset that. If I was a Wisky fan, I would be concerned about the play of Mertz so far this season. Hopefully, after this game, they will be missing themselves some Coan!

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  • Excited about Shamrock Series
  • Nationally ranked opponent
  • smart, physical, balll control
  • controlling line of scrimage
  • like navy
  • mertz is good
  • smart and well coached team
  • big 2 gap DT
  • Smart Physical, typical badgers
  • ND's in good shape health wise
  • Not to much intel from Coan
  • New chapter for Coan
  • BIG LB's for the Badgers
  • More OL rotation
  • Carmondy Tosh rotating outwide
  • Joe alt finding a role
  • need to sustain drives offensively
  • Prince Kollie is available
  • Buchner in hamstring treatment, probable
  • OL needs technique but also game experience
  • transitioning on the Offensive line- rocco mentioned
  • holding down the fort while we transition
  • Tosh, Blake, Mike and Joe have bright future at tackle
  • 3rd and short is ok, base dive play averages 6 yards
  • likes the running game
  • we have big play guys
  • we need to make big plays and get off the field on defense
  • Senior receivers are sent confidence
  • preparation matters
  • will see more flipped corners
  • not sure on Coans extra year of eligibility
  • Coach that has not won a National championship
  • Talking to your coaches before players is important we can't mix messages
  • Like to be on the same page
  • What they  hear after the game matters
  • Controlling locker room narrative
  • Joe alt could do some Tommy tremble jobs, need to recruit more trembles
  • likes to play in NFL venues, selling point to players
  • Prettly level headed coan. Kelly yelled at Coan, Jack handled it great
  • JD needs a break. Kollie might help
  • Pryor can really run, playing to those strength
  • Stretch of games is tough, Need to stay healthy and grow as a team
  • defense played with confidence, need to tacle better, focused on the fundamentals, much better against Purdue
  • Need to force badgers off schedule
  • new recruiting rules. 25+7
  • gains recruiting flexibily, not big on it for ND
  • Christ is outstanding, togh physical etc. 
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This game is tricky for me. Wisky will keep running(literally) the same gameplan all game. ND has been susceptible to giving up the big run.  So, you have to think Melusi is going to break loose a few times. Just have to hope ND can open up the offense this game now that some of the left tackles have a little experience. No game pick for me this week. Who knows…

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48 minutes ago, coltssb said:

This game is tricky for me. Wisky will keep running(literally) the same gameplan all game. ND has been susceptible to giving up the big run.  So, you have to think Melusi is going to break loose a few times. Just have to hope ND can open up the offense this game now that some of the left tackles have a little experience. No game pick for me this week. Who knows…

I think ND will make Mertz beat them. At least that will be their game plan to start. Key on the run until Mertz proves he can do something. Melusi might get a few nice ones, but if Mertz isn't getting chunk plays, I like our chances.

Tommy just needs to call a good game vs a good D. And you know Coan is going to be up for this game.

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1 hour ago, OKelleyIrish said:

I think ND will make Mertz beat them. At least that will be their game plan to start. Key on the run until Mertz proves he can do something. Melusi might get a few nice ones, but if Mertz isn't getting chunk plays, I like our chances.

Tommy just needs to call a good game vs a good D. And you know Coan is going to be up for this game.

I agree about Coan. He doesn’t have to be Superman out there either. Plays will be there. He just has to be patient. 

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6 hours ago, coltssb said:

I agree about Coan. He doesn’t have to be Superman out there either. Plays will be there. He just has to be patient. 

Yup. Wiscy's D is good, but they have holes. We'll have chances.

Not really worried about Wiscy's O. 

5 hours ago, PJacksonsDred15 said:

Even with the O-Line woes, we have a better and more diverse offense than Wisconsin. They will run it 35 times. I hate to be simplistic, but if we stop the run we win the game. 

Yup. I find Melusi starting for them a bit ironic. Many thought he would commit to ND for a while. And when he hit the transfer portal, many thought he wanted to come to South Bend. Wonder what the true back story is there. 

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Drew White

  • Depth necessary highlighted JD 
  • alot more blitzes
  • badgers game, physical, need gap integrity
  • does NIL and charity work at the same time
  • JD is never satisfied, hardest worker
  • ability to be the best, but we're not there yet
  • excited for the atmosphere. I just need to do  MY JOB
  • Physical at point of contact and being assignment correct 1 of 11.

Houston Griffith

  • Excited to play in Chicago
  • first time playing at home again since high school
  • great atmosphere
  • badgers a program that runs the football control the ball
  • put pressure on receivers
  • get off the field
  • ND record: tunnel vision. Process not outcome.
  • Likes  Peanut Tillman from the Bears

Chris Tyree

  • Never been to Soldier Field
  • Toughness for Badgers
  • Stay Patient, set up blocks
  • RB passing game keeps the defense honest
  • 2 QBs have been impressive
  • Kelly's been the same guy all the time, Happy to be here

 

Josh Lugg

  • Expect a physical intense game
  • Faceless opponent, execute fundamentals
  • top down leadership, tight unit
  • cummunication has gotten better, great center, tosh doing great
  • executing higher level, fixing mistakes goin back to fundamentals
  • need to set better in pass pro, communicate in linebacker blitz.
  • excited to play in nfl stadiums
  • rbs work hard and finish strong
  • every week, chip on our shoulder, execute fundamentals consistently
  • cherishes every game. I want to play my best to honor people who have helped me get here 
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Even though we have shown plenty of weaknesses over the first three,,,,,from _Oline ills and ground game struggles to missed tackles and big plays....nonetheless i really like the way this game shapes up,,,,and if i recall we played very well last time we played at soldier field.....just think all the intangibles are working for us in this venue at this time,

Look for us to play better then we are,,,bring our A game and win by 14 plus

aloha

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2 hours ago, Irish_Thunder said:

This is a fun/unique match up for WI and I expect a rowdy pro-Bucky crowd. Hope I'm wrong, either way I'll say Doerer will make the difference, Irish by 3. We must protect Coan, Jim Leonhard will send pressure all night. 

I don't have any relevant info on this, but I would expect the crowd to be more ND than Wisky. I realize Wisky is the 'home team' for this one, I just think Chicago (my home town) leans far more ND than Wisconsin.

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1 hour ago, jimbo said:

I don't have any relevant info on this, but I would expect the crowd to be more ND than Wisky. I realize Wisky is the 'home team' for this one, I just think Chicago (my home town) leans far more ND than Wisconsin.

I’m in your boat. Chicago used to be pro ND. It may have changed who knows. Also, I’m not sure how well Wisky fans travel. Should be fun regardless!

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On 9/20/2021 at 7:01 AM, OKelleyIrish said:

 

  • Predictions
    • ND 17 / Wiscy 13
    • Ugly game. Neither offense will look good.
    • Coan is efficient, but not flashy vs his old team, and has just enough success vs Wiscy DBs to look better than Mertz.
    • Buchner delivers a few times with his legs, and one deep ball
    • Whoever wins the turnover battle, wins the game
    • Foskey delivers with multiple sacks on Mertz, and Kyle gets a key INT
    • BK goes purple at least twice
    • The board has a hissy-fit when Melusi breaks 100 yards
    • The board, after the win, forgets about our woes on D from the past 3 games, and turns their poo poo to Tommy for only scoring 17
    • PS - My alter ego keeps telling me Coan erupts for 300+ and 4 TDs, and the Irish roll 38-13 on the big stage.

You got to believe and I believe In Okelley’s alter ego

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  • No decision on Carmondy availability(ankle)
  • Wisconsins outstanding, sum greater then their parts.
  • we need to make big plays
  • kurt hinish has a lingering injury
  • badgers nose tackle is good
  • 2 gap if they are 3 down, 1 gap vs 4 down, get 4 hands on him,
  • kevin austin: hard worker, Great work volume, lots of pride
  • Jordan Botelho: Farther long, will be getting more snaps: Buchners improving
  • Box reed, tempo play. Needed to pass, processing.
  • game reps matter for Buchner
  • attention to detail, focus traits. ND changes plays with personnel but not traits
  • Still working on traits 
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