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This sucks lol...

He was great for ND lol...

They were ready to do this. Already nuked from the staff roster on the website. Completely purged per ESPN/SEC network lol.

Must have had a pretty clear decision matrix in place to start the season... 

Rumors already about Urban Liar.

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As bad a weekend as ever in Trojan history. First, their kicker gets ejected from the game for targeting on the opening kick, then they lay down and let a shitty Stanford team rip them a new one, and then  their coach is toast!

 

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Yeah, I was hoping he would be around for at least a few more seasons. Kind of brutal to be firing him just 2 games into the season. If he was on such thin ice, why not can him after last season? From what I’ve read about Helton, he seems like a pretty decent person. A shame they treated him this way. Hope their next coach is a bust!

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10 hours ago, jimbo said:

Yeah, I was hoping he would be around for at least a few more seasons. Kind of brutal to be firing him just 2 games into the season. If he was on such thin ice, why not can him after last season? From what I’ve read about Helton, he seems like a pretty decent person. A shame they treated him this way. Hope their next coach is a bust!

From the outside it looks like they gave him an ultimatum. Don’t lose a game. Ha. Also, I wonder if they were trying to save the recruiting class from last year. Who knows the logic of this firing. 

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13 minutes ago, irishwavend said:

He’s a great OC.  Dump Tommy and hire Helton.

So you want to fire a guy who was

  • 11th in offensive efficiency and had the 8th ranked SoS,

and hire a guy who was

  • 37th in offensive efficiency with the 63rd ranked SoS..... 

Makes complete sense.....

 

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21 hours ago, OKelleyIrish said:

So you want to fire a guy who was

  • 11th in offensive efficiency and had the 8th ranked SoS,

and hire a guy who was

  • 37th in offensive efficiency with the 63rd ranked SoS..... 

Makes complete sense.....

 

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You haven’t followed Helton’s career, clearly…  There’s a difference in being a head coach and an OC.

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31 minutes ago, irishwavend said:

You haven’t followed Helton’s career, clearly…  There’s a difference in being a head coach and an OC.

I am very familiar with his career. I just don't think he's some type of offensive genius. The teams he OC'd for didn't statistically perform at a much higher rate than before he got there.

He also had some of the best talent in the nation on Offense.... Orgeron (second stint) was nationally known as the best recruiter those days at USC when Helton came on. Probably has had the most star power at QB and WR than anyone with the exception of maybe Bama.

Here's a look at total O. Note Helton's time at Memphis never was as good as 2004, and his 2009 dropped off significantly. Helton's OC (just OC) was not statistically any better than before he took over as OC in USC either....

And lastly, Tommy had just as good of a year in total offense in his first year, than Helton did in his entire career. And Tommy had a 3 star QB, and less star WRs....

I'm open to changing my mind on the topic, and not saying Tommy is some elite offensive genius, but Helton isn't some obvious upgrade.

Memphis
2004 - 460
2005 - 397
2006 - 336
2007 - 443 (Helton OC)
2008 - 417 (Helton OC)
2009 - 373 (Helton OC)

USC
2007 - 434
2008 - 455
2009 - 389
2010 - 431
2011 - 456
2012 - 433
2013 - 453 (Helton OC)
2014 - 457 (Helton OC)
2015 - 437 (Helton OC)

ND
2020 449 (Tommy)
 

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