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2023 Recruiting Prospects


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The target number is ~24 recruits for this year (4 Verbals, ? EEs [^]) :

 

Overall 247 Composite Rankings: Total Points - #? Overall and Player Avg. - #? Overall

 

247: Notre Dame 2023 Football Offers

247: 2023 Football Recruiting Composite Team Rankings

 

Visitor List: Will update

 

QB (1)

MI QB Dante Moore (Offer): 247 Composite 5* 0.99

KS QB Avery Johnson (Offer): 247 Composite 4* 0.94

TX QB Jackson Arnold (Offer): 247 Composite 4* 0.90

 

RB (1-2)

GA RB Justice Haynes (Offer): 247 Composite 4* 0.98

FL RB Sedrick Irvin, Jr. (Offer): 247 Composite 4* 0.93

IL RB Kaden Feagin (Offer): 247 Composite 3* 0.87

 

WR (3)

FL WR Jalen Brown (Offer): 247 Composite 5* 0.99

FL WR Carnell Tate (Offer): 247 Composite 4* 0.98

PA WR Rodney Gallagher (Offer): 247 Composite 4* 0.97

IL WR Malik Elzy (Offer): 247 Composite 4* 0.90

 

TE (1-2)

CA TE Cooper Flanagan [ND Verbal]: 247 Composite 4* 0.94

AZ TE Duce Robinson (Offer): 247 Composite 5* 0.98

MN TE Jaxon Howard (Offer): 247 Composite 4* 0.97

 

OL (4-5)

AI OL Kadyn Proctor (Offer): 247 Composite 5* 1.00

TX OL Harris Sewell (Offer): 247 Composite 4* 0.97

SC OL Monroe Freeling (Offer): 247 Composite 4* 0.96

OH OL Joshua Padilla (Offer): 247 Composite 4* 0.93

IL OL Charles Jagusah (Offer): 247 Composite 4* 0.89

 

DL (3-4)

OH DL Brenan Vernon [ND Verbal]: 247 Composite 5* 0.99

FL DL Keon Keeley [ND Verbal]: 247 Composite 4* 0.95

TX DL David Hicks (Offer): 247 Composite 5* 1.00

FL DL Derrick LeBlanc (Offer): 247 Composite 4* 0.98

OH DL Luke Montgomery (Offer): 247 Composite 4* 0.97

MO DL Chandavian Bradley (Offer): 247 Composite 4* 0.96

VA DL Mathias Barnwell (Offer): 247 Composite 4* 0.92

IN DL Kendrick Gilbert (Offer): 247 Composite 3* 0.85

TX DL Kennedy McDowell (Offer): 247 Composite NR

 

LB (2-3)

IN LB Drayk Bowen (Offer): 247 Composite 5* 0.99

LA LB Tackett Curtis (Offer): 247 Composite 4* 0.97

PA LB Ta'Mere Robinson (Offer): 247 Composite 4* 0.96

GA LB Troy Ford (Offer): 247 Composite 4* 0.90

MA LB Preston Zinter (Offer): 247 Composite 4* 0.89

 

CB (2)

NV CB Justyn Rhett (Offer): 247 Composite 4* 0.97

FL CB Malik Muhammad (Offer): 247 Composite 4* 0.97

WA CB Caleb Presley (Offer): 247 Composite 4* 0.96

GA CB Kayin Lee (Offer): 247 Composite 4* 0.95

GA CB Ethan Downs (Offer): 247 Composite 4* 0.94

MO CB Christian Gray (Offer): 247 Composite 4* 0.94

OK CB Micah Tease (Offer): 247 Composite 4* 0.92

NJ CB Moussa Kane: 247 Composite 3* 0.89

 

S (2)

NJ S Adon Shuler [ND Verbal]247 Composite 4* 0.92

GA S Caleb Downs (Offer): 247 Composite 4* 0.98

TX S Peyton Bowen (Offer): 247 Composite 4* 0.97

TX S Ryan Yaites (Offer): 247 Composite 4* 0.95

FL S King Mack (Offer): 247 Composite 4* 0.90

 

ATH (?)

OH S Sonny Styles (Offer): 247 Composite 5* 1.00

FL ATH Samuel M'Pemba (Offer): 247 Composite 5* 0.99

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1 hour ago, The Captain 19 said:

He is projected to go to OU.  Their qb recruiting has been amazing lately.  Rattler, Williams, and now potentially Nelson. 

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58 minutes ago, OKCIrish99 said:

He is projected to go to OU.  Their qb recruiting has been amazing lately.  Rattler, Williams, and now potentially Nelson. 

Why do you think that QBs want to go to Oklahoma instead of ND? Is it the actual scheme, the coaching (i.e. QB development), or their WRs?  

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1 hour ago, jbrown_9999 said:

Why do you think that QBs want to go to Oklahoma instead of ND? Is it the actual scheme, the coaching (i.e. QB development), or their WRs?  

Past success and Lincoln Riley track record with QBs.

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48 minutes ago, Big23Head said:

Past success and Lincoln Riley track record with QBs.

Is that success due to QB coaching, offensive scheme, or WR talent?

I am trying to figure what ND is missing compared to other programs. Other schools in the NC picture seem to repeatedly turn out great QBs while Kelly has only had a 2nd round and 4th round in 11 years.

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1 hour ago, jbrown_9999 said:

Is that success due to QB coaching, offensive scheme, or WR talent?

I am trying to figure what ND is missing compared to other programs. Other schools in the NC picture seem to repeatedly turn out great QBs while Kelly has only had a 2nd round and 4th round in 11 years.

Oklahoma should also be asking about what we are doing defensively that they aren't

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2 hours ago, jbrown_9999 said:

Is that success due to QB coaching, offensive scheme, or WR talent?

I am trying to figure what ND is missing compared to other programs. Other schools in the NC picture seem to repeatedly turn out great QBs while Kelly has only had a 2nd round and 4th round in 11 years.

Which schools are those? I don't see a pattern emerging.

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I thought I read that ND has been late to recruit QBs the past few years.  If that's true, jumping in late puts them behind from the beginning.  I would really like to see the staff do better with evaluating their QB prospects earlier and starting the process much sooner.  It would be preferable to lock in your QB recruit early as one of your 1st commits so they can be the player recruiters/leaders that they typically are.

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I thought I read that ND has been late to recruit QBs the past few years.  If that's true, jumping in late puts them behind from the beginning.  I would really like to see the staff do better with evaluating their QB prospects earlier and starting the process much sooner.  It would be preferable to lock in your QB recruit early as one of your 1st commits so they can be the player recruiters/leaders that they typically are.

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7 hours ago, Synoptico said:

Success brings success. Why does bama win, because they get the best players, because they win. 

Agree.  Oklahoma seemed to really get things started in the late '90s when opening up the offense.  They've had 4 QBs win the Heisman since then: White, Bradford, Mayfield and Murray with a few others in between who were pretty decorated in their own right.  Pretty good story to tell prospective top shelf QB recruits. 

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23 hours ago, Big23Head said:

Past success and Lincoln Riley track record with QBs.

Yes and recent Heisman winners at qb (Mayfield, Murray) don't hurt either.  Riley is an offensive genius.  OU was lucky to get him.  

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On 7/12/2021 at 9:16 AM, jbrown_9999 said:

Why do you think that QBs want to go to Oklahoma instead of ND? Is it the actual scheme, the coaching (i.e. QB development), or their WRs?  

Because they put up 50 points a game and can really pad stats on offense. If I was a QB or WR, Oklahoma would look very good to me.

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1 hour ago, NDhoosier said:

Because they put up 50 points a game and can really pad stats on offense. If I was a QB or WR, Oklahoma would look very good to me.

5* QBs also want to go to Clemson, Ohio St, and Alabama but not ND. It's too bad that ND has a 35 point a game offense while other CFP teams run 40 to 50 points a game offenses. 

When Kelly had a chance to go out and hire the best OC possible (in an exhaustive national search at that), he somehow ended up with Tommy Rees who architected a 33.4 points per game offense (down from 36.8 in 2019) . 

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8 hours ago, jbrown_9999 said:

5* QBs also want to go to Clemson, Ohio St, and Alabama but not ND. It's too bad that ND has a 35 point a game offense while other CFP teams run 40 to 50 points a game offenses. 

When Kelly had a chance to go out and hire the best OC possible (in an exhaustive national search at that), he somehow ended up with Tommy Rees who architected a 33.4 points per game offense (down from 36.8 in 2019) . 

He lost by far his two best weapons from last year and didn't have spring practices.

 

20 played Alabama and Clemson twice.  19 didn't have any defenses like that.   The 20 offense was as good or better when you consider competition and circumstances.   Rees wasn't bad at all last year minus a few moments.

 

Our offense performed about what it should have with the talent and competition we played.  Our style was run first and ball control

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1 hour ago, golson5 said:

He lost by far his two best weapons from last year and didn't have spring practices.

 

20 played Alabama and Clemson twice.  19 didn't have any defenses like that.   The 20 offense was as good or better when you consider competition and circumstances.   Rees wasn't bad at all last year minus a few moments.

 

Our offense performed about what it should have with the talent and competition we played.  Our style was run first and ball control

Do you think that the Kelly/Rees run first and ball control offense will win a NC? How about being able to simply score more than 14 points in a play-off game?

BTW, I thought that Kelly's best offensive weapon was Ian Book, the record setting QB? Surely he should not have missed a beat given that he had an all-NFL line in front of him. Shouldn't a top notch head coach with 30 years experience make sure that he can reload vs. rebuild at WR? I don't know, maybe play an underclassman or two and let them catch a pass?

 

 

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7 hours ago, jbrown_9999 said:

Do you think that the Kelly/Rees run first and ball control offense will win a NC? How about being able to simply score more than 14 points in a play-off game?

BTW, I thought that Kelly's best offensive weapon was Ian Book, the record setting QB? Surely he should not have missed a beat given that he had an all-NFL line in front of him. Shouldn't a top notch head coach with 30 years experience make sure that he can reload vs. rebuild at WR? I don't know, maybe play an underclassman or two and let them catch a pass?

 

 

I was responding to you complaining about Rees.  You just brought Kelly into the mix.  2 different arguments. 

 

I was never an Ian Book fan so you save that talk for someone else.   

 

Rees was just fine as OC last year with his circumstance and we did go to the playoff with him as qb coach and now OC.

 

You were just off by throwing out the numbers the way you did.  It happens, we're all wrong sometimes

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