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1. Jaguars- Trevor Lawrence QB Clemson

2. Jets- Zach Wilson QB BYU

3. 49ers- Trey Lance QB North Dakota State

4. Falcons- Kyle Pitts TE Florida

5. Bengals- Ja'Marr Chase WR LSU

6. Dolphins- Jaylen Waddle WR Alabama

7.  Lions- Penei Sewell OT Oregon

8. Panthers- JayCee Horn CB South Carolina

9. Broncos- Patrick Surtain II CB Alabama

10. Eagles - Davonta Smith WR Alabama

11. Bears- Justin Fields QB Ohio State

12. Cowboys- Micah Parsons LB PSU

13. Chargers- Rashawn Slater Jr OT Northwestern

14. Jets- Alijah Vera-Tucker G USC

15. Patriots- Mac Jones QB Alabama

16. Cardinals-Zaven Collins LB Tulsa

17. Raiders- Alex Leatherwood OT Alabama

18. Dolphins- Jaelan Phillips DE Miami

 19. Washington- Jamin Davis LB Kentucky

 20. Giants- Kadarius Toney WR Florida

 21. Colts- Kwity Paye DE Michigan

22. Titans- Caleb Farley CB Virginia Tech

23. Vikings- Christian Darrisaw OT Virginia Tech

24. Steelers- Najee Harris RB Alabama

25. Jaguars- Travis Etienne RB Clemson

26. Browns- Greg Newsome II CB Northwestern

27. Ravens- Rashod Bateman WR Minnesota

28. Saints- Payton Turner DE Houston

29. Packers- Eric Stokes CB Georgia

30. Bills- Gregory Rousseau DE Miami

31. Ravens- Jayson Oweh LB PSU

32. Buccaneers- Joe Tryon LB Washington 

  

 

Draft Tracking:

https://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker/picks

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8 hours ago, EddieAngel said:

Surprised that JOK fell out of the first.  More surprised at the LBs who went ahead of him.  Thoughts?

 

I see a lot of LBs listed as DEs maybe that is part of it. 

I'm shocked that he fell out of the first round was well. Felt that Parsons and JOK were a clear #1 and #2 at their positions. Somebody is going to get a steal early in the second round.

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Given that ND has only had one player drafted in first round in the last three drafts (Tillery in 2019), who is ND's best shot as their next first round pick? This has to be impacting recruiting to some extent especially since Kelly's last non-lineman to get drafted in first round was Will Fuller in 2016 (6 drafts ago).

Any chance that Jack Coan will go first round in 2022? 😁

 

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1 hour ago, ND_JACK said:

Lol….Jack Coan you are so sarcastic jbrown. How about Hamilton maybe in 2022. And Michael Mayer in 2023 ???

To win the NC, it appears that Kelly needs to recruit/develop better offensive skilled positions so he can score more than 14 points in a play-off game.

As a result, to help his non OL & TE recruiting, It would be good for BK to have better success putting skilled players into the NFL.

The number one criteria top recruits seem to look for is their best path to the NFL. The coaches/schools BK is competing against for the NC have each had multiple QBs drafted in the FIRST round in the past few years. Not to mention RBs and WRs. Kelly's last non-lineman drafted in first round was in 2016. I imagine that fact gets used to recruit against ND.

So while having a safety and TE get drafted in the first round will be nice, it does not really address the question about whether or not BK can develop QBs, RBs, and WRs for the NFL at the same level as the other top coaches.

 

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13 hours ago, EddieAngel said:

Surprised that JOK fell out of the first.  More surprised at the LBs who went ahead of him.  Thoughts?

 

I see a lot of LBs listed as DEs maybe that is part of it. 

That’s exactly how I felt.  It really makes no sense to me.

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JOK is going to buy some unwitting GM another year or two of work. Him falling out of the first can be chalked up solely to a lack of vision. He was hands down the best LB in the class and arguably in the running for the top defender but got pigeon-holed as a 'large safety/undersized lb' instead of "guy that sits on the field and makes plays and gives defense increased adaptability'. Tyrann Mathieu and Russell Wilson are two guys that were similarly pigeon-holed and I'm of the belief that JOK's impact will land somewhere between them. 

The lines get pretty blurry between him and Roquan Smith who has been productive at the NFL and wasn't similarly pigeon-holed (likely because he was less dynamic in coverage and thus, less easily labelled as a big safety). I'd say smith may be a bit better in the box while JOK is more electric and certainly better in coverage. 

Hopefully someone belicheck'ian nabs him in the next round and correctly deploys him as the Joker he is (Will early downs and Nickel LB/Dime Safety on passing downs). He's a great puzzle piece that you can just leave on the field regardless of the opponents formation, IMHO.

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2 hours ago, jbrown_9999 said:

To win the NC, it appears that Kelly needs to recruit/develop better offensive skilled positions so he can score more than 14 points in a play-off game.

As a result, to help his non OL & TE recruiting, It would be good for BK to have better success putting skilled players into the NFL.

The number one criteria top recruits seem to look for is their best path to the NFL. The coaches/schools BK is competing against for the NC have each had multiple QBs drafted in the FIRST round in the past few years. Not to mention RBs and WRs. Kelly's last non-lineman drafted in first round was in 2016. I imagine that fact gets used to recruit against ND.

So while having a safety and TE get drafted in the first round will be nice, it does not really address the question about whether or not BK can develop QBs, RBs, and WRs for the NFL at the same level as the other top coaches.

 

Just recently read that every national champion in the playoff era has had 5 or more 1st round picks. Do you see any ND recruiting class with 5 first rounders or even a combination of 2 classes?

 

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3 hours ago, cavic said:

Just recently read that every national champion in the playoff era has had 5 or more 1st round picks. Do you see any ND recruiting class with 5 first rounders or even a combination of 2 classes?

 

Not to beat the same old drum but it is like jbrown said, if Kelly can't develop the skill positions (outside of TE) then it is going to be tough sledding. I don't doubt that those classes had great OL production, but I would be surprised if any of those NC classes didn't also include a first round RB or WR or, obviously, QB.

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7 minutes ago, FaithInIrishForever said:

Banks to the 49ers as well.

I am sure it will be nice to work with McGlinchey for him. The rest of the draft for me is just curiosity to see if Book gets picked up.

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As people said, all you have to do is look at who’s getting drafted. No wonder ND can’t points against Bama and those likes. This is Nd’s golden opportunity with Freeman and the momentum he’s gathered to keep ND in the playoffs. Now the offense has to pick up by miles. 
mom JOK, I wonder if he’s not considered athletic enough. I have no idea because the man shined in almost every game he played at ND. 

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Just now, coltssb said:

As people said, all you have to do is look at who’s getting drafted. No wonder ND can’t points against Bama and those likes. This is Nd’s golden opportunity with Freeman and the momentum he’s gathered to keep ND in the playoffs. Now the offense has to pick up by miles. 
mom JOK, I wonder if he’s not considered athletic enough. I have no idea because the man shined in almost every game he played at ND. 

He was recruited as a safety/LB Hybrid so its mostly a size question.

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2 minutes ago, FaithInIrishForever said:

He was recruited as a safety/LB Hybrid so its mostly a size question.

Everybody wants the next Cam or Bubba as the beefed up safety that can run. Such a copy cat league. 

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