ND_JACK 15 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Spencer Jones an OU football player gets his *** kicked by a MMA trained fighter. I think he is a receiver and he lost his eye. What a doubt F you better be more then tough if your messing with an MMA guy. https://www.mmafighting.com/2021/2/22/22296179/viral-video-shows-ou-football-star-beaten-up-by-mma-trained-man-police-investigating Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EddieAngel 15 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Looks like keeping it real went wrong. Clearly, that dude never watched the Chapelle show. https://www.cc.com/video/b12r81/chappelle-s-show-when-keeping-it-real-goes-wrong-darius-james-uncensored Quote Link to post Share on other sites
irishrush 11 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Man I gots kids. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
irishwavend 7 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Looks like keeping it real went wrong. Clearly, that dude never watched the Chapelle show. https://www.cc.com/video/b12r81/chappelle-s-show-when-keeping-it-real-goes-wrong-darius-james-uncensored aaaahahahahahaha. Great reference! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
coltssb 10 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 From about the ten fights I have been in. It’s the guy who throws the first punch that usually wins. That MMA reference didn’t even matter. The guy could of ground and pounded the guy like his brother did on that back duplex guy and he would of been alright with the fight still. The rear naked choke wasn’t even necessary. Other thoughts, everyone there should be charged. Watching a person get pummeled and filming is sickening while cheering it on. The guys that continue to ground and pound when they are clearly out, should be charged...funny he said they’ve been training since they were 12 and “did everything they could to de-escalate the situation.” Haha. Throwing the first punch isn’t de-escalating the situation. Finally, the other guys should be charged since he did throw that wimpy push to the guy. But they probably won’t since, they got beat down. Just my thoughts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
irishwavend 7 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 As soon as that dude threw the punch, I wondered if he was headed to jail. There was nothing there that was sufficient to provoke that response except him being charged up as an MMA guy looking for his chance to use his skill. I disagree about the filming and standing around. You don't have a duty under the law to do anything to stop it or not film it. The law lets you sit there and watch. That's just the way it is. Now, if they prevented the guy's escape or something, then they'd be in trouble, but that wasn't the case. But I'm just speaking from a legal duty, not moral or ethical. Then, again, maybe there was a lot going on before that and the guy had it coming... ha. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
coltssb 10 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 As soon as that dude threw the punch, I wondered if he was headed to jail. There was nothing there that was sufficient to provoke that response except him being charged up as an MMA guy looking for his chance to use his skill. I disagree about the filming and standing around. You don't have a duty under the law to do anything to stop it or not film it. The law lets you sit there and watch. That's just the way it is. Now, if they prevented the guy's escape or something, then they'd be in trouble, but that wasn't the case. But I'm just speaking from a legal duty, not moral or ethical. Then, again, maybe there was a lot going on before that and the guy had it coming... ha. Just for a thought. What if one of those guys died later that night? Would charges be filed against those video filming? Just curious? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ELDER06 10 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 As soon as that dude threw the punch, I wondered if he was headed to jail. There was nothing there that was sufficient to provoke that response except him being charged up as an MMA guy looking for his chance to use his skill. I disagree about the filming and standing around. You don't have a duty under the law to do anything to stop it or not film it. The law lets you sit there and watch. That's just the way it is. Now, if they prevented the guy's escape or something, then they'd be in trouble, but that wasn't the case. But I'm just speaking from a legal duty, not moral or ethical. Then, again, maybe there was a lot going on before that and the guy had it coming... ha. If you watch again, the guy who threw the punch was already bloody when filming started. I’m willing to bet the OU player actually threw the first punch prior to filming. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ELDER06 10 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Also, the OU player is a reserve WR and the Holder. He’s a nobody who needed to get put in his place. Good for the MMA guys. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ND_JACK 15 Posted February 24 Author Share Posted February 24 If you watch again, the guy who threw the punch was already bloody when filming started. I’m willing to bet the OU player actually threw the first punch prior to filming. From what I was told you are right. The first part was not on the video where the football player punched the MMA guy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JoeBrasco 10 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 As soon as that dude threw the punch, I wondered if he was headed to jail. There was nothing there that was sufficient to provoke that response except him being charged up as an MMA guy looking for his chance to use his skill. I disagree about the filming and standing around. You don't have a duty under the law to do anything to stop it or not film it. The law lets you sit there and watch. That's just the way it is. Now, if they prevented the guy's escape or something, then they'd be in trouble, but that wasn't the case. But I'm just speaking from a legal duty, not moral or ethical. Then, again, maybe there was a lot going on before that and the guy had it coming... ha. Wrong. Once you put your hands on another man be ready to get hit. I don’t care that it was a weak shove. He picked the wrong guys to provoke. Sorry about his luck. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
irishwavend 7 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Wrong. Once you put your hands on another man be ready to get hit. I don’t care that it was a weak shove. He picked the wrong guys to provoke. Sorry about his luck. Yeah, that’s the legal standard...I forgot. Let me dust off my law books.... Can I borrow yours? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ndfanatic78 2 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 Wrong. Once you put your hands on another man be ready to get hit. I don’t care that it was a weak shove. He picked the wrong guys to provoke. Sorry about his luck. First that’s not how the law works. Second he attacked the person in front of him not the person that shoved him. Last I’m pretty sure the fight was originally between the guy in the Jean jacket and the guy in the sweat shirt and cowboy boots. The OU player appears to be trying to break it up although very poorly. If I was a wagering man I would say 3 of the 4 are going to be charged but not the OU football player unless he actually was involved before the video started recording. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JoeBrasco 10 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 My response was not related to how this would play out in court. I was speaking in terms of street justice - if you push a guy expect to get punched. Hopefully this saves the next blowhard from quoting my reply and playing attorney. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ndfanatic78 2 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 “Blowhard” - he didn’t even attack the person who pushed him, but way to get defensive there and not even read what I wrote. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pregame 10 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 Drunk college guys get into fight, shocking development. That said, MMA is terrible and generally so are the people who partake (from the video/story is does not seem like this guy provoked it). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ndfanatic78 2 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 Drunk college guys get into fight, shocking development. That said, MMA is terrible and generally so are the people who partake (from the video/story is does not seem like this guy provoked it). This is very true. In my college days this would have been a non-story, maybe a blurb about college football player gets in fight on page 15 of the local paper, but now that everyone walks around with a recording device the youth will have to live with their mistakes permanently stored on the internet and evidence for everything they do available to the authorities to prosecute. I swear 1984 was written by a prophet. Lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
irishwavend 7 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 This is very true. In my college days this would have been a non-story, maybe a blurb about college football player gets in fight on page 15 of the local paper, but now that everyone walks around with a recording device the youth will have to live with their mistakes permanently stored on the internet and evidence for everything they do available to the authorities to prosecute. I swear 1984 was written by a prophet. Lol I’m not overly religious but in this time of cancel culture and everything being recorded, I have been reflecting on the message of forgiveness more. It makes so much more sense when it’s applied today - you have to leave room for people to grow and learn from their mistakes. Yes, there should penance but you shouldn’t be punished in perpetuity for most things. You should be punished but there should also be the chance to surpass that moment as you keep growing and learning. We have too many folks who want to impose lifetime punishments for trivial crap. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jbrown_9999 18 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 (edited) “Blowhard” - he didn’t even attack the person who pushed him, but way to get defensive there and not even read what I wrote. It appears that the video is only the second part of the story. Do you know you actually know what happened beforehand or are you just guessing? It would good to know exactly why the MMA guy was bleeding? In any case, here is a more recent article which has a little from both sides https://www.mmafighting.com/2021/2/24/22299637/gofundme-set-up-for-mma-trained-man-who-fought-spencer-jones-attorney-says-it-was-legally-justified Edited February 25 by jbrown_9999 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rocketsan 13 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 Glad you guys can decipher who’s who and who did what because I surely can’t... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nremdn 10 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 Glad you guys can decipher who’s who and who did what because I surely can’t... This 100%. A young man was seriously injured and almost became disabled in the prime of his life. Does anyone know this young man? Ever met him? Why wish this on anyone? I've been lurking around this place since 2005 and this may be the most disappointing thread I have ever seen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
coltssb 10 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 This 100%. A young man was seriously injured and almost became disabled in the prime of his life. Does anyone know this young man? Ever met him? Why wish this on anyone? I've been lurking around this place since 2005 and this may be the most disappointing thread I have ever seen. Really?!!? You’ve been around since 2005 and THIS was the worst thread you’ve read? I can think of about 5 that were a lot worst. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nremdn 10 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 Really?!!? You’ve been around since 2005 and THIS was the worst thread you’ve read? I can think of about 5 that were a lot worst. Guess I missed those. Grown men talking about how a guy deserved to get beaten down and almost lose an eye with no evidence or facts to back it up has got to be a low point. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ELDER06 10 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 Guess I missed those. Grown men talking about how a guy deserved to get beaten down and almost lose an eye with no evidence or facts to back it up has got to be a low point. The guy was acting like a dik head. I didn’t want to see him lose an eye, but he deserved to get decked in the face. He’s a backup WR acting like he runs the show, he needed to be knocked down a few pegs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ELDER06 10 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 This 100%. A young man was seriously injured and almost became disabled in the prime of his life. Does anyone know this young man? Ever met him? Why wish this on anyone? I've been lurking around this place since 2005 and this may be the most disappointing thread I have ever seen. He’s clearly a dbag. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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