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N.Y. Post on Urban Liar and his recruits


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In Phil Mushnick's column in the NY Post Feb. 13 he has this to stay about how Urban Liar recruited:

"Despite new Jacksonville Jaguars coach Urban Meyer's claims to being a religious man, one wonders if anyone would have ever heard of him if he wasn’t reliant on young criminals recruited to his football teams, first at the University of Florida then at Ohio St., both known to do whatever it takes.

 

Meyer’s teams, 2005 to 2018, totaled in excess of 40 arrests, from murder (Aaron Hernandez, then with the Patriots) to rape, to weapons, to kidnapping. He even indulged one of his assistant coaches, bringing him to Ohio St. despite evidence that he chronically assaulted his wife.

 

And thus it seems that Meyer owes much of his success to criminals. His collegiate employers paid him millions to recruit the young among them by dangling full scholarships in the bogus name of NCAA student-athletics. The Jaguars and NFL obviously were left impressed."

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I'm puzzled as to why this is news. It's not.

 

He was also an assistant at ND for a handful of years. I'm sure he got some on-the-job-training. Let's not pretend Kim Dunbar, Tarnished Dome, Declan Sullivan didn't happen, or Cierre Wood didn't murder a kid.

 

Glass houses, throwing stones and whatnot. Florida and Ohio State don't care, ND at least tries to. That's a difference. I will concede that.

 

P.S. I would have given a Ronnie Lott tip of the finger to hire him in 2005 or 2009 - or now.

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I'm puzzled as to why this is news. It's not.

 

He was also an assistant at ND for a handful of years. I'm sure he got some on-the-job-training. Let's not pretend Kim Dunbar, Tarnished Dome, Declan Sullivan didn't happen, or Cierre Wood didn't murder a kid.

 

Glass houses, throwing stones and whatnot. Florida and Ohio State don't care, ND at least tries to. That's a difference. I will concede that.

 

P.S. I would have given a Ronnit Lott tip of the finger to hire him in 2005 or 2009 - or now.

 

Wood was recruited by Weis and constantly in the doghouse under Kelly. Hernandez murdered someone while at Florida and Urban and his cronies prevented the police from investigating. I think that is a big difference.

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Wood was recruited by Weis and constantly in the doghouse under Kelly. Hernandez murdered someone while at Florida and Urban and his cronies prevented the police from investigating. I think that is a big difference.

 

I may have the timeline wrong, but I thought he "only" shot somebody through the face at Florida. He got a Master's in Murder after that.

 

Your points are fair. My larger point was implied so I'll say it explicitly: I do not like the sanctimonious, holier-than-though tone a large portion of our fanbase uses as its starting point. That current position is belied by the fact that fans who are old enough to remember were crestfallen when Meyer gave ND the one finger salute.

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I'm puzzled as to why this is news. It's not.

 

He was also an assistant at ND for a handful of years. I'm sure he got some on-the-job-training. Let's not pretend Kim Dunbar, Tarnished Dome, Declan Sullivan didn't happen, or Cierre Wood didn't murder a kid.

 

Glass houses, throwing stones and whatnot. Florida and Ohio State don't care, ND at least tries to. That's a difference. I will concede that.

 

P.S. I would have given a Ronnie Lott tip of the finger to hire him in 2005 or 2009 - or now.

 

Way off here, bro... Dunbar was taking kids to Vegas...hardly a crime, Sullivan was an accident, Cierre Wood if I recall was negligence, not intentional... Our guys aren’t purposefully thumbing their nose at criminal law. At Florida, players were driving around firing off Ak-47s....you would NEVER see that at ND. And, those guys didn’t get kicked out which was shocking.

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Way off here, bro... Dunbar was taking kids to Vegas...hardly a crime, Sullivan was an accident, Cierre Wood if I recall was negligence, not intentional... Our guys aren’t purposefully thumbing their nose at criminal law. At Florida, players were driving around firing off Ak-47s....you would NEVER see that at ND. And, those guys didn’t get kicked out which was shocking.

 

I think you're a lawyer - may have you confused with another poster, but I think we speak the same language.

 

Dunbar was also fellating and being seeded by players for grades and embezzling money.

 

Prince Shembo happened. He probably sexually assaulted a girl and she definitely killed herself. I would view him more favorably had he not Justin Turnered his girlfriend's dog 50 yards and killed it.

 

Sullivan was negligence at best.

 

No, it's not "that" bad at ND. You're right. I believe I yielded as much above.

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