jbrown_9999 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 (edited) 22 hours ago, Jburkdd12 said: seems more and more like Taylor needs help closing In the last 5 NFL drafts, Kelly has had only one RB get drafted (in 6th round). Two in last 8 drafts and three in last 11 drafts. A grand total of just a 3rd round pick and two 6th round picks in 11 years. Unfortunately, that is probably making it harder to recruit top RB talent to ND than to other schools with better track records for RBs (e.g. Alabama, Clemson , Ohio St and even Penn St all with recent first round picks). Hopefully, Williams and Tyree will both get drafted early and help shift the narrative for ND RBs to the positive. Edited July 1, 2021 by jbrown_9999 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJacksonsDred15 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 2022 recruiting has been taking a hit since the NIL Supreme Court case came to the surface. Just a coincidence or something to that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Captain 19 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Nic Anderson committed to Oregon. All the CB's were in our favor. That stings a little. On 6/14/2021 at 5:03 PM, Big23Head said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinKSU Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 6 minutes ago, The Captain 19 said: Nic Anderson committed to Oregon. All the CB's were in our favor. That stings a little. Who needs AC during this heatwave when you’ve got the breezes provided by all these whiffs from the offensive staff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big23Head Posted July 2, 2021 Author Share Posted July 2, 2021 Yep. ND wanted this kid too. Offensive staff is taking it on the chin. Singleton too. Haven’t closed on anyone they think or thought they had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ELDER06 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Anderson to Oregon. Williams & Merriweather become even more important. I do think they'll land Carnell Tate in the class of '23, but they need as many quality WRs as they can get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELDER06 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Just now, Big23Head said: He's going to be Irish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ELDER06 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 1 hour ago, ColinKSU said: Who needs AC during this heatwave when you’ve got the breezes provided by all these whiffs from the offensive staff? Yeah, I'm not really happy with the Offensive recruiting in this class especially when you compare them to what the Defensive side is pulling in. I was never and will never be on board with Angelli as the QB but now you're just making it that much more difficult down the line pairing him with no real skill talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELDER06 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, Big23Head said: I really think it's down to Penn St & ND. Right now, he's probably leaning Penn St but ND has the weekend to make one last push. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbrown_9999 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Big23Head said: Yep. ND wanted this kid too. Offensive staff is taking it on the chin. Singleton too. Haven’t closed on anyone they think or thought they had. Is it too late to get Freeman involved in offensive recruiting... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Fence Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Tough news on Anderson. Many people felt good about him. Maybe we need to get Xavion Bradshaw back on the docket for a visit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbrown_9999 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 40 minutes ago, D Fence said: Tough news on Anderson. Many people felt good about him. Maybe we need to get Xavion Bradshaw back on the docket for a visit. Will they now need to find Plan C recruits on offense if they burned bridges with recruits like Bradshaw? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big23Head Posted July 2, 2021 Author Share Posted July 2, 2021 Something is definitely off on the O side. They seem to think these recruits are wrapped up and they are wrong. Some of this might be kids finally getting out to visits and truly being blown away by another school. I don’t think Anderson is a huge loss talent wise, meaning I think he’s replaceable. But ND wanted him and lost after apparently thinking they had him. Singleton was always a hard pull but they have to win one of those eventually. Luckily they have Price who I think will be excellent. They need to lock up Williams and Merriweather. Then things look much better on O. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jburkdd12 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 11 hours ago, jbrown_9999 said: Is it too late to get Freeman involved in offensive recruiting... I thank we are giving Freeman way to much credit... Is he doing a good job yes but Elston is a beast also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jburkdd12 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 41 minutes ago, Big23Head said: Something is definitely off on the O side. They seem to think these recruits are wrapped up and they are wrong. Some of this might be kids finally getting out to visits and truly being blown away by another school. I don’t think Anderson is a huge loss talent wise, meaning I think he’s replaceable. But ND wanted him and lost after apparently thinking they had him. Singleton was always a hard pull but they have to win one of those eventually. Luckily they have Price who I think will be excellent. They need to lock up Williams and Merriweather. Then things look much better on O. you think this is on kelly or reese ? at the end of the day it all rolls back to the coach to close Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synoptico Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 19 minutes ago, Jburkdd12 said: you think this is on kelly or reese ? at the end of the day it all rolls back to the coach to close Rees* 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndfanatic78 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, Synoptico said: Rees* Kelly hired Reese instead of going out and getting the best OC he could, like he did with DC, so that he could have a yes man running the same boring offense he has had for almost a decade now. So I put it on Kelly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synoptico Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 12 minutes ago, ndfanatic78 said: Kelly hired Reese instead of going out and getting the best OC he could, like he did with DC, so that he could have a yes man running the same boring offense he has had for almost a decade now. So I put it on Kelly. I mean he was the starting QB for three years and is the OC, you could at least get his name right. it is Rees, not Reese 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbrown_9999 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Jburkdd12 said: I thank we are giving Freeman way to much credit... Is he doing a good job yes but Elston is a beast also I assume that as Recruiting Coordinator, Elston is involved in recruiting both offense and defense. From what I can tell, Freeman is only involved on defense. Elston has also been around for awhile and DL recruiting has not been at the current level since Diaco left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big23Head Posted July 2, 2021 Author Share Posted July 2, 2021 27 minutes ago, jbrown_9999 said: I assume that as Recruiting Coordinator, Elston is involved in recruiting both offense and defense. From what I can tell, Freeman is only involved on defense. Elston has also been around for awhile and DL recruiting has not been at the current level since Diaco left. BVG killed all D recruiting. Elston is the reason DL recruiting is where it is and Freeman has only helped. Brenan Vernon raved about Elston. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big23Head Posted July 2, 2021 Author Share Posted July 2, 2021 12 hours ago, jbrown_9999 said: Will they now need to find Plan C recruits on offense if they burned bridges with recruits like Bradshaw? No, not yet. They need to lock down Williams and Merriweather. That changes a ton. Then go after Ayomanor. After that wait for Andre Greene's OV and keep eyes open for new options, which probably includes Bradshaw visiting. There will be new options this year too given how little visibility some kids have gotten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Fence Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 6 minutes ago, Big23Head said: No, not yet. They need to lock down Williams and Merriweather. That changes a ton. Then go after Ayomanor. After that wait for Andre Greene's OV and keep eyes open for new options, which probably includes Bradshaw visiting. There will be new options this year too given how little visibility some kids have gotten. Agree - they have to shift from "take your time to make sure" to locking up both of those WRs sooner than later. Whereas some recruits like Rice help ND the longer the recruitment goes, these 2 hurt ND if they drag things out in my opinion. I'm hoping that Singleton really wants to come here and defy local pressures, but if he decides on Penn State, we still have a very good back already in Price. I wonder if they go to alternate guys at RB as they could have some turnover in that room after the season if Kyren goes pro and Flemister doesn't return for a 5th year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jburkdd12 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 12 minutes ago, D Fence said: Agree - they have to shift from "take your time to make sure" to locking up both of those WRs sooner than later. Whereas some recruits like Rice help ND the longer the recruitment goes, these 2 hurt ND if they drag things out in my opinion. I'm hoping that Singleton really wants to come here and defy local pressures, but if he decides on Penn State, we still have a very good back already in Price. I wonder if they go to alternate guys at RB as they could have some turnover in that room after the season if Kyren goes pro and Flemister doesn't return for a 5th year. I would keep eyes and ears open but please don’t reach. I would rather have CBo/Tyree next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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