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Honestly, he's the only one I can stand on that side - he's thoughtful and articulate about his positions, whether I agree with them or not. He actually thinks, though incorrectly (hahaha). He's also not a millionaire who could easily charitably donate to ANY cause he wants up to the 70% tax that is so often proposed, but doesn't.... *cough* *cough* Bernie...

 

All that said, I'm sticking with the person, even if he's a child, whose policies more align with the policies I want to see. I would really like to see someone more professional run whose policies align, like Nikki Haley, but at the same time, I don't want the war chest exhausted during an unnecessary primary. Just win and stop all of this socialism non-sense and the asinine policies of the Obama years...

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Never been a fan myself although I live in Mishawaka, not South Bend. He appeals to the left though. Ran on his military service the first time, then came out of the closet got married and the left lapped that up.

 

I just think he's average as a mayor and making the jump from mayor of a smaller midwest city to president would be a huge leap. JMO

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Never been a fan myself although I live in Mishawaka, not South Bend. He appeals to the left though. Ran on his military service the first time, then came out of the closet got married and the left lapped that up.

 

I just think he's average as a mayor and making the jump from mayor of a smaller midwest city to president would be a huge leap. JMO

 

More experience than Beto... Are you saying he's the political equivalent of Gerry Faust?

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Never been a fan myself although I live in Mishawaka, not South Bend. He appeals to the left though. Ran on his military service the first time, then came out of the closet got married and the left lapped that up.

 

I just think he's average as a mayor and making the jump from mayor of a smaller midwest city to president would be a huge leap. JMO

 

Sounds like our president now. Never ran even a town, and yet, is now leading the nation....

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Honestly, he's the only one I can stand on that side - he's thoughtful and articulate about his positions, whether I agree with them or not. He actually thinks, though incorrectly (hahaha). He's also not a millionaire who could easily charitably donate to ANY cause he wants up to the 70% tax that is so often proposed, but doesn't.... *cough* *cough* Bernie...

 

All that said, I'm sticking with the person, even if he's a child, whose policies more align with the policies I want to see. I would really like to see someone more professional run whose policies align, like Nikki Haley, but at the same time, I don't want the war chest exhausted during an unnecessary primary. Just win and stop all of this socialism non-sense and the asinine policies of the Obama years...

 

Like most of the Dem Candidates, he’s a huge PC vagina. Any candidate that stands with Ilhan Omar is unAmerican and not worthy of being President. Way to give a middle finger to all the ppl that died that day by supporting someone who tried to minimize the tragedy for political gain.

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Honestly, he's the only one I can stand on that side - he's thoughtful and articulate about his positions, whether I agree with them or not. He actually thinks, though incorrectly (hahaha). He's also not a millionaire who could easily charitably donate to ANY cause he wants up to the 70% tax that is so often proposed, but doesn't.... *cough* *cough* Bernie...

 

All that said, I'm sticking with the person, even if he's a child, whose policies more align with the policies I want to see. I would really like to see someone more professional run whose policies align, like Nikki Haley, but at the same time, I don't want the war chest exhausted during an unnecessary primary. Just win and stop all of this socialism non-sense and the asinine policies of the Obama years...

 

Even Obama is trying to reel in the Left, but they ignore him. How can any of you support a party where AOC is considered the future?

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Even Obama is trying to reel in the Left, but they ignore him. How can any of you support a party where AOC is considered the future?

 

I’ll have some fun, why not. Pelosi, the rights favorite person to hate, has even shot down AOC recently by saying there’s only five persons in office right now that support her for left ideas. It’s the radical rights wanting to eat AOC’s cookies every night on Fox that makes the conservatives think every dem has views line up with AOC’s. But why am I surprised that you don’t see that.

 

Most of the country is lined down the middle. It’s a few from BOTH parties that are causing this deep seed dissection.

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I’ll have some fun, why not. Pelosi, the rights favorite person to hate, has even shot down AOC recently by saying there’s only five persons in office right now that support her for left ideas. It’s the radical rights wanting to eat AOC’s cookies every night on Fox that makes the conservatives think every dem has views line up with AOC’s. But why am I surprised that you don’t see that.

 

Most of the country is lined down the middle. It’s a few from BOTH parties that are causing this deep seed dissection.

 

Except you’ve got a Dem Socialist who almost won the ticket 3 yrs ago. Now you’ve also got all of these losers kissing Al Sharpton’s azz, some even want reparations and open borders. The Democrats want neutered hacks, like Mayor Pete, who will bend the knee for every SJW advocacy group.

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Even Obama is trying to reel in the Left, but they ignore him. How can any of you support a party where AOC is considered the future?

 

Her qualifications are laughable, she was a bartender, for crying out loud.

Everything that comes out of her mouth makes me think they should check to see if she even has her GED.

In my book, AOC = All Out Crazy!!!

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Her qualifications are laughable, she was a bartender, for crying out loud.

Everything that comes out of her mouth makes me think they should check to see if she even has her GED.

In my book, AOC = All Out Crazy!!!

 

She has a degree in Economics from a reputable University, but spent nearly a decade after College as a Bartender for a reason. It's because no respectable Financial Services Firm, Bank, etc. would hire her.

 

However, now she's a media darling because the media loves woke women of color, no matter how idiotic they are.

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She has a degree in Economics from a reputable University, but spent nearly a decade after College as a Bartender for a reason. It's because no respectable Financial Services Firm, Bank, etc. would hire her.

 

However, now she's a media darling because the media loves woke women of color, no matter how idiotic they are.

 

I have a liberal BU grad in my neighborhood who even hates her.

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I have a liberal BU grad in my neighborhood who even hates her.

 

I like how she pretends to be from the Bronx... she grew up in West Chester County. That’s like all of these ND students claiming to be from SBend.

 

I’m a Millennial and was already embarrassed by my generation, but she makes me even more ashamed.

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I actually love a lot of AOC’s ideas.

I love how she stimulates a conversation.

But...

I also love how far right-wingers stimulate conversation.

It’s the extremes that start the conversations. It’s the “middles” who get things done.

Unfortunately CNN, Fox, and people on Facebook present factual information from very slanted points of view and that keeps us divided. These media sources make it look like most people are on the far right or far left and demons if not agreeing with their points of view. I believe most Americans are relative Centrists, blowing to one side or the other of center depending on how their wallets are doing.

I look at Facebook one time a week now. I don’t even read my local paper any more. My morning reading now consists of: South China Morning Post, The Guardian, Al Jazeera News, and various Russian news sources. They present meaningful global news and are not so caught up in the (in my opinion) day to day ramblings of US far right and far left media darlings.

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I actually love a lot of AOC’s ideas.

I love how she stimulates a conversation.

But...

I also love how far right-wingers stimulate conversation.

It’s the extremes that start the conversations. It’s the “middles” who get things done.

Unfortunately CNN, Fox, and people on Facebook present factual information from very slanted points of view and that keeps us divided. These media sources make it look like most people are on the far right or far left and demons if not agreeing with their points of view. I believe most Americans are relative Centrists, blowing to one side or the other of center depending on how their wallets are doing.

I look at Facebook one time a week now. I don’t even read my local paper any more. My morning reading now consists of: South China Morning Post, The Guardian, Al Jazeera News, and various Russian news sources. They present meaningful global news and are not so caught up in the (in my opinion) day to day ramblings of US far right and far left media darlings.

 

Getting rid of cars and airplanes is a good idea? That hypocrite spent thousands of $ on uber during her campaign when the train was available. Plus, Jake Tapper murdered her in an interview. She had ZERO clue on how to pay for any of it.

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I’ll have some fun, why not. Pelosi, the rights favorite person to hate, has even shot down AOC recently by saying there’s only five persons in office right now that support her for left ideas. It’s the radical rights wanting to eat AOC’s cookies every night on Fox that makes the conservatives think every dem has views line up with AOC’s. But why am I surprised that you don’t see that.

 

Most of the country is lined down the middle. It’s a few from BOTH parties that are causing this deep seed dissection.

 

The larger liberal media has annointed her, not FOX news(who I also don't agree with). Everytime I see news, she's right there. She auditioned for the part and got it, everything she says outside a live interview is spoonfed to her by her handlers. I know lots of liberals, she's a leftist and thats a big and scary difference. The vocal minority that is upending the DNC is behind her and so is the media in stirring the pot.

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Haha. The fact that aoc is brought up in a thread about a presidential candidate shows it all, she is one of 465, yet FOX and the right love to bring her up to generalize a whole party. Fox hasn’t been gaslighting? Hannity has a daily special on AOC. Look AoC is anti establish and gives a **** about people, which you can not say about most politicians. I don’t agree with a lot of her positions, would say amateur, less thought out ideas. However, she cares about people and therefore she should be heard. Unlike Jack over here, how is this dude not banned for his bigotry?:banplease:

 

Good post Kelly I agree with you btw.

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Haha. The fact that aoc is brought up in a thread about a presidential candidate shows it all, she is one of 465, yet FOX and the right love to bring her up to generalize a whole party. Fox hasn’t been gaslighting? Hannity has a daily special on AOC. Look AoC is anti establish and gives a **** about people, which you can not say about most politicians. I don’t agree with a lot of her positions, would say amateur, less thought out ideas. However, she cares about people and therefore she should be heard. Unlike Jack over here, how is this dude not banned for his bigotry?:banplease:

 

Good post Kelly I agree with you btw.

 

She only cares about the celebrity. And it’s not the a Republicans that built her Up, it’s the media. She’s a loser who hides behind Identity politics to shield her from criticism.

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Getting rid of cars and airplanes is a good idea? That hypocrite spent thousands of $ on uber during her campaign when the train was available. Plus, Jake Tapper murdered her in an interview. She had ZERO clue on how to pay for any of it.

 

Oh, I agree that there’s no viable way to pay for all the things she espouses in the Green New Deal. There are some great ideals in there though. Figuring out how to pay for them? That’s beneath her. She’s an idea person.

 

Me too. I can think of lots of great things to do, ways to make my life and the lives of those around me better. But, in this real pay-as-you-go private life, not funded by money taken from others, paying for these things isn’t always possible.

I’m not sure DC functions that way though.

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She only cares about the celebrity. And it’s not the a Republicans that built her Up, it’s the media. She’s a loser who hides behind Identity politics to shield her from criticism.

 

That’s not true, she does care about people. She’s not a loser either, she’s doing much better in life than you I presume. I don’t mean monetary either, she is liked by people which I imagine could come difficult for you. Again, she is one of many in Congress, why don’t we talk about a real evil person like Steve King.

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Haha. The fact that aoc is brought up in a thread about a presidential candidate shows it all, she is one of 465, yet FOX and the right love to bring her up to generalize a whole party. Fox hasn’t been gaslighting? Hannity has a daily special on AOC. Look AoC is anti establish and gives a **** about people, which you can not say about most politicians. I don’t agree with a lot of her positions, would say amateur, less thought out ideas. However, she cares about people and therefore she should be heard. Unlike Jack over here, how is this dude not banned for his bigotry?:banplease:

 

Good post Kelly I agree with you btw.

 

I’m glad to see you back!

Haven’t heard from you in a while.

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