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http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/dennis-dodd/24786336/michigan-states-playoff-pitch----just-check-out-that-loss-at-oregon?tid=1415374143

 

I guess Dodd completely forgot about the Notre Dame/FSU game

 

Controversial loss by 4 points to the number 2 team in the nation

 

or

 

MSU giving up 28 straight points in the second half so the #4 team in the nation can pull away and win by three scores

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oh. so they played strong for 21 minutes?

 

but the other 39 minutes they got absolutely worked?

 

I don't usually question other writers opinions very strongly, but this is flat out ridiculous.

 

Not ridiculous at all. If you take away the part of the game they lost 46-7, they actually won 20-0. They should be #1.

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Yeah it's frustrating because this ND team wouldn't lose by more than a possession to anyone in College Football and would likely push Oregon around.

 

I don't get the lovefest with Michigan State, margin of win should have some impact (unfortunate for us), but margin of loss is a huge indicator of a team's quality. Let's hope MSU loses to Ohio State because if they make the playoff they'll get stomped by three touchdowns to whoever they play.

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Yeah it's frustrating because this ND team wouldn't lose by more than a possession to anyone in College Football and would likely push Oregon around.

 

I don't get the lovefest with Michigan State, margin of win should have some impact (unfortunate for us), but margin of loss is a huge indicator of a team's quality. Let's hope MSU loses to Ohio State because if they make the playoff they'll get stomped by three touchdowns to whoever they play.

 

Exhibit A. 31-0, 30-14

Exhibit B. 35-11, 45-31

 

What are those numbers? Why it's the scores when both teams played Michigan and Purdue. We're A and they are B, you'll notice a better Margin of Victory in both cases. Which is why I believe that if we both win on Saturday, we'll leap-frog Michigan State.

 

There is a lot of fear in Sparty Nation about us right now. They look at this week's poll as a potential death knell on their chances. The fact they didn't move up and ASU moving up to 9, is killer for them.

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Exhibit A. 31-0, 30-14

Exhibit B. 35-11, 45-31

 

What are those numbers? Why it's the scores when both teams played Michigan and Purdue. We're A and they are B, you'll notice a better Margin of Victory in both cases. Which is why I believe that if we both win on Saturday, we'll leap-frog Michigan State.

 

There is a lot of fear in Sparty Nation about us right now. They look at this week's poll as a potential death knell on their chances. The fact they didn't move up and ASU moving up to 9, is killer for them.

 

I can't even believe we are having this discussion between us and Sparty in the polls, we are lightyears better than them. To me it is clear as day and the only reason it's being discussed is because of some bias against ND, because that's the only logical explanation.

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How convenient that Dodd doesn't have a Comments section at the end of his article (from what I could see). Otherwise I'd be calling for a Piratey peppering right now.

 

Oh they have one. But commenting would be pissing in the wind, there are already 1568 comments that call out Dodd's insipid little article.

 

Once comments reach the hundreds, I don't bother with snarky replies.

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Oh they have one. But commenting would be pissing in the wind, there are already 1568 comments that call out Dodd's insipid little article.

 

Once comments reach the hundreds, I don't bother with snarky replies.

 

Ah, gotcha. But now I understand why he's still employed -- people actually read his material. Maybe the best thing for us to do is ignore the effer.

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I can't even believe we are having this discussion between us and Sparty in the polls, we are lightyears better than them. To me it is clear as day and the only reason it's being discussed is because of some bias against ND, because that's the only logical explanation.

 

Ask anyone in the Detroit media market and they'll tell you that Sparty would beat us by two scores on a neutral site.

 

My biggest problem with Michigan State has been they have played approximately one QB in the last 2 years who can throw down field with consistently and they lost by 19.

 

Here's a fun stat. Tommy Rees is the best QB they faced last year. By like 40 spots.

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Ask anyone in the Detroit media market and they'll tell you that Sparty would beat us by two scores on a neutral site.

 

My biggest problem with Michigan State has been they have played approximately one QB in the last 2 years who can throw down field with consistently and they lost by 19.

 

Here's a fun stat. Tommy Rees is the best QB they faced last year. By like 40 spots.

 

Two scores? Now that is humor.

 

ND has beat them three straight times by 39 total points and now they would beat the best ND team if the four by two scores?

 

Priceless.

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I clicked on "the experts picks". A majority of them have ASU beating ND. Unless the defense plays poorly, like really poor, I just don't see it. Might be eating crow later but I just don't see it.

 

All but one from espn has ASU winning. FoxSports is split 1-1 and Si.com is split 4-4

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Phil Steels--Jason Sehorn and Colin Cowherd----ALL PICK ND!

 

 

As far as MSU goes--an OVERRATED team IMO. I look for that 4 star laden roster of urban meyer to find a way to win

 

OSU---27---MSU --17

 

aloha's

 

Urban had a four star laden team last year and found a way to lose by 10. They had a better QB, a MUCH better RB, four veteran players off their online...

 

Ohio State is a paper tiger. They have played maybe the worst schedule of any team in the power-5 conferences and lost by double digits, at home, to a 4-5 VTech team.

 

tOSU's wins are Navy(4-5), Kent State(1-8), Cincy(5-3), Maryland(6-3), Rutgers(5-4), PSU(4-4) and Illinois(4-5)

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Don't talk about paper tigers Piratey without LOOKING again at MSU

 

Jacksonville state

Eastern Michigan

Wyoming

Indiana

Purdue

AND A HAPLESS Michigan

 

the only two good teams they played they got trounced by Oregon and LUCKED OUT against Nebraska who had them beat and let them get away

 

OSU by 10--mark it down--:-)

 

aloha's

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The B1G is a terrible conference....seriously. I don't know who is going to prove they suck less tomorrow, but I can tell you both would get trounced by any team in the top 25 that isn't from that pathetic conference.

 

It is a joke the MSU's loss is "better" than NDs....but the even bigger joke is that the committee would put a team from the B1G anywhere near the top 10. More than anything, it proves to me that the committee members aren't watching these games.

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Don't talk about paper tigers Piratey without LOOKING again at MSU

 

Jacksonville state

Eastern Michigan

Wyoming

Indiana

Purdue

AND A HAPLESS Michigan

 

the only two good teams they played they got trounced by Oregon and LUCKED OUT against Nebraska who had them beat and let them get away

 

OSU by 10--mark it down--:-)

 

aloha's

 

Wait...what? I think you're confused. Michigan State dominated that football game. The outcome was much akin to the Mississippi State/LSU game, where MissState was up big, sat back on their laurels and LSU almost came back.

 

Michigan State was up 27-3 going into the fourth quarter, they had held Nebraska to 184yds of total offense. They held Ameer Abdullah to 33yds rushing(He finished with 45, his lowest total ever as a starter)

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This is when someone comes in and posts ND wins for the year.

 

OK, well let's do that. Sagarin rating of ND vs MSU opponents

 

ND Rank Rank MSU

Stanford 26 17 Nebraska

North Carolina 60 66 Jacksonville St

Michigan 70 70 Michigan

Syracuse 74 80 Indiana

Rice 79 81 Purdue

Purdue 81 116 Wyoming

Navy 83 208 Eastern Michigan

 

So only in their toughest game did MSU play a tougher opponent (though not by nearly as much as people think just looking at Nebraska and Stanford's records). The schedule gets progressively more difficult for ND as you go towards the bottom.

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