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i'd like to see these three get some more playing time in our next three games. they each bring something different to the table and all three can be very explosive. the future looks very bright at wr and i couldn't be more pumped up about them. i say put them into the rotation and let them go nuts.

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i'd like to see these three get some more playing time in our next three games. they each bring something different to the table and all three can be very explosive. the future looks very bright at wr and i couldn't be more pumped up about them. i say put them into the rotation and let them go nuts.

 

I agree with you... I know BK was easing them into the mix, but we are almost 3/4 the way through the season now. Let's get them in there and contributing.

Davonte' is barely a glorified John Goodman at this point back there on punt returns. We can see that Chris Brown can be a deep threat also. I think they would all add a dynamic to the team that we haven't had in a while.

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Sounds like Cierre Wood....hmmm.

 

More so. Heck, has Brown had any other touches save for those deep attempts that almost connected in previous games to this past Saturday?

 

 

Nope.

 

Surely, he can run other routes other than just a deep pump...

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More so. Heck, has Brown had any other touches save for those deep attempts that almost connected in previous games to this past Saturday?

 

 

Nope.

 

Surely, he can run other routes other than just a deep pump...

 

Maybe not, BK said they've repped that play 70 times in practice. Not sure if that was just last week or total for the season. But, that man reps on one play doesn't leave a lot of time to practice much else for Brown. Ha

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I think Brown gets a lot more playing time with his speed. Neal should be used more on reverses and as a decoy. I think Ferguson just doesn't really have a shot to play much save for special teams. Neal can be an electric punt returner as well. We just need more blocking for him. I expect the punt return game to be much improved next year after we get more depth.

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Brown does one thing better then anybody on the team. Therefore he will keep doing it. As far as other routes, we haven't been to the point where we can play other people. If we get up big early against Pitt, then we will dabble, but it may not happen. It's all good. Next spring will be dynamic and the expectations will be through the roof. Brown, Neal and DaVaris will all be starters and will be dynamic.

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If I can teach 8-10 year olds to run 5-8 different routes, I think these guys should be able to handle different routes. I just think the older guys have more complete games at this point.

 

Right, but at this level, it isn't "just running routes". Yes, anyone can run a post, or an out or a dig.

 

The key is knowing when to run those routes. Most time, it isn't a case of, "Chris, go run route X." It's, "Chris, go read the defense and know which route you have to run based on what they are showing."

 

That is why he is playing a role. He is playing the "Hey Chris, run fast and go deep." role. As he gains more experience and knowledge, he'll play more when he is responsible for reading the defense and running the correct route.

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Is there THAT much PT available?

 

I see the following in our receiving...

 

Eifert = TE/WR - the top dog but teams are scheming him out at the moment

Jones = WR - the most complete pure receiver. Good on routes, great hands, effort blocking, YAC ... Having a very underrated year

Daniels = WR - the most physically gifted of our playing receivers. Since his injury has had a few down moments but has been great given his youth.

Toma = WR - the quintessential 'slot ninja'. Gets the little yards. Has not been looked at much but 90% of the time, produces when we look that way.

Riddick = WR/RB - very steady, lots of great tools and was getting a surprising amount of burn as a WR for the first few games. Steady but good for 1 drop of a catchable ball a game.

Brown = WR - good for one route only but happens to be VERY good for it.

Smith = WR - the blocking WR. You'd almost never know he's there but has been very big given the collective growing pains of Niklas/Koyack

 

There have been some others on the field but this is about it for our receiving options. Looking at that, I don't see where another guy gets in and makes a name this year. We have specialist for the key areas, to little Swiss army knives, one guy gaining experience and showing flashes and two guys that are 'go to's'

 

I really have been most impressed with our play at this group ... More than eve CB. Losing floyd should have hurt us much more than it has. If not for golsons growing pains and the spotty line play, this group would be standing out. Personally, I would just prefer to have our young guys save a year and get built up slowly.

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Right, but at this level, it isn't "just running routes". Yes, anyone can run a post, or an out or a dig.

 

The key is knowing when to run those routes. Most time, it isn't a case of, "Chris, go run route X." It's, "Chris, go read the defense and know which route you have to run based on what they are showing."

 

That is why he is playing a role. He is playing the "Hey Chris, run fast and go deep." role. As he gains more experience and knowledge, he'll play more when he is responsible for reading the defense and running the correct route.

 

I agree but there are certain plays and times where you're not necessarily reading the D. This is the play and this is your route.....

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If I can teach 8-10 year olds to run 5-8 different routes, I think these guys should be able to handle different routes.

 

It's not just handling other routes, it's being on the same page with the QB to adjust to a different route based on the coverage schemes. That takes time.

 

I just think with a young QB it's better to have as much experience around him as possible.

 

Those guys will all get their chances. They're all gifted players with bright futures. But th guys in front of them are good too, and they are experienced.

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He's already played some and plays on special teams.

 

There's seems to be a whole lot of confusion going on between players burning their eligibility.

 

I believe it stems from BK answering a question in a press conference about Stanley and if he didn't play after the 4th game and had less the x amount of appearances. But, those rules relate to a Medical Redshirt, so they have to have a documented injury that prevented them from competing.

 

Otherwise, if you played, even for one play, you redshirt for that year is gone.

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Right, but at this level, it isn't "just running routes". Yes, anyone can run a post, or an out or a dig.

 

The key is knowing when to run those routes. Most time, it isn't a case of, "Chris, go run route X." It's, "Chris, go read the defense and know which route you have to run based on what they are showing."

 

That is why he is playing a role. He is playing the "Hey Chris, run fast and go deep." role. As he gains more experience and knowledge, he'll play more when he is responsible for reading the defense and running the correct route.

 

Or, can you teach him to run 5-8 GREAT routes that he will run BETTER than the CB's across from him will defend? That's a big difference.

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Or, can you teach him to run 5-8 GREAT routes that he will run BETTER than the CB's across from him will defend? That's a big difference.

 

Sure, but a you can run the greatest post route in the world, but you aren't going to be open if a team is running cover 2.

 

You can run the best 12 yard curl in the history of football, but if the DB is playing under coverage with help over the top, you aren't going to be open.

 

IF a team is playing straight man defense, then yes, you can just tell him to run this route and beat his man. But that isn't always the case and it isn't like you get to put him out there only in those instances.

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Looks to me like we are seeing the best all around player at each position. Getting adjusted to the speed of the game, passing your freshmen classes, learning the playbook, and developing yourself physically takes time. Manti came out of HS the second best player in the nation (a little like this guy from Fort Wayne coming in next year), and he played immediately; but he is a once in a lifetime student athlete. Even so, Manti circa '09 is about 3 steps down from Manti circa '12.

 

In that light, Russell is a very special player and a tremendous blessing for us.

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I hate that we burned neal's year on fair catching. I wish ferguson would have redshirted as well. Our wideout class for next season seems questionable. We could have from 4 to none in theory.

 

Eh, all this stuff has a way of working out. I actually like our WR class next year, and with the way we're playing I think we'll be fine moving forward.

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