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Old 09-09-2019, 05:55 PM
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Under BK, ND is 5-4 in their second game of the season (although, to be fair, 3 of those 4 losses came in BK's first 4 seasons). Even some of the wins have been fairly close (Purdue 2012, Virginia 2015, and Ball State 2018 ). I have no idea what to make of this - it could just be a random stat, instead of a trend, but it's worth noting that 3 of the last 4 years, Game 2 has been decided by one score.

2018: Ball State - W 24-16
2017: Georgia - L 19-20
2016: Nevada - W 39-10
2015: @Virginia - W 34-27
2014: Michigan - W 31-0
2013: @Michigan - L 30-41
2012: Purdue - W 20-17
2011: @Michigan - L 31-35
2010: Michigan - L 24-28
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Old 09-09-2019, 07:32 PM
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I think it is mostly coincidence.

Four games vs. Michigan, you'd expect those to be close.

Every game was close in 2012.

Georgia was as expected.

Virginia was a road game where ND lost their starting QB.

Nevada was as expected.

Ball St. seems to the only game really out the realm of the expected, and much of that can be explained by them trying to discover if Wimbush could throw it enough for them to win.
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Old 09-11-2019, 10:46 PM
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Under BK, ND is 5-4 in their second game of the season (although, to be fair, 3 of those 4 losses came in BK's first 4 seasons). Even some of the wins have been fairly close (Purdue 2012, Virginia 2015, and Ball State 2018 ). I have no idea what to make of this - it could just be a random stat, instead of a trend, but it's worth noting that 3 of the last 4 years, Game 2 has been decided by one score.

2018: Ball State - W 24-16
2017: Georgia - L 19-20
2016: Nevada - W 39-10
2015: @Virginia - W 34-27
2014: Michigan - W 31-0
2013: @Michigan - L 30-41
2012: Purdue - W 20-17
2011: @Michigan - L 31-35
2010: Michigan - L 24-28
This is also the home opener.

Irish 8-1 in home openers under Kelly. Only loss the debacle vs USF in 2011.
In those 9 games avg score... ND 32.1, Opp. 13.4.

Since 2013 ND is 6-0 in home openers with only 1 game, Michigan 2018, being less than a 3 TD margin.

AVG score in home openers since 2013... ND 37.6, Opp. 11.5
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What is our record when playing games on September 14th? I think thatís the most accurate historical predictor of success followed slightly by our record of games played on astroturf in September... Whereís Bob Uecker when you need him to connect outrageously obscure stats?
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Iím curious who our game 3 opponents were. Could that be a factor based on our play too? Also, as mentioned Michigan 3 games and Georgia for one was to be expected as close games.
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Old 09-12-2019, 01:07 AM
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What is our record when playing games on September 14th? I think thatís the most accurate historical predictor of success followed slightly by our record of games played on astroturf in September... Whereís Bob Uecker when you need him to connect outrageously obscure stats?
Outrageously obscure stats? How is looking at Game 2 under BK and seeing a trend obscure?

Thought it was interesting more than anything. And I agree with the above that the close games/losses are more likely due to playing Michigan/Georgia.
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Old 09-12-2019, 04:33 AM
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Outrageously obscure stats? How is looking at Game 2 under BK and seeing a trend obscure?

Thought it was interesting more than anything. And I agree with the above that the close games/losses are more likely due to playing Michigan/Georgia.
I could stick my head up a cows a$$ to see a trend, but I'd rather take the butcher's word for it... Or, maybe it was "to get a good look at a t-bone..." Haha. I can't remember...

But, in all seriousness, there are soooo many variables that trends become nothing more than talking points for announcers seeking to fill air time. The team from one year to the next, with 85 guys, is fairly incomparable when you start trying to pin down a particular week of success or lack thereof... Heck, just look at how strikingly different our schedule is from last year to this year. That alone is a big factor in whether we're going to have success in any particular week.

Anyway, just my two cents and attempts at comedy.
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I could stick my head up a cows a$$ to see a trend, but I'd rather take the butcher's word for it... Or, maybe it was "to get a good look at a t-bone..." Haha. I can't remember...

But, in all seriousness, there are soooo many variables that trends become nothing more than talking points for announcers seeking to fill air time. The team from one year to the next, with 85 guys, is fairly incomparable when you start trying to pin down a particular week of success or lack thereof... Heck, just look at how strikingly different our schedule is from last year to this year. That alone is a big factor in whether we're going to have success in any particular week.

Anyway, just my two cents and attempts at comedy.
Apparently they give a lot fewer D-pluses than D-minuses. It's not a grade they like to give out.
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Apparently they give a lot fewer D-pluses than D-minuses. It's not a grade they like to give out.
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