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Old 02-11-2020, 06:12 PM
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ND Commits

Blake Fisher (OT): 4-star, #20 overall (down 2)
Lorenzo Styles, Jr. (WR): 4-star, #37 overall (down 3)
Tyler Buchner (QB): 4-star, #43 overall (down 1)
Deion Colzie (WR): 4-star, #72 overall (up 1)
Gabriel Rubio (DT): 4-star, #99 overall (down 4)
Greg Crippen (OG): 4-star, #129 overall (down 4)

Just some slight movement since the last update. There was an article about 3 prospects on the cusp of 5-star status, and Blake Fisher was named as one of those prospects. Cane Berrong (TE) was previously the #215 overall recruit, but he is now outside the Top 250. As has been mentioned previously, Greg Crippen is still listed as a commit, but pretty much all sites are saying that he is not expected to end up in the class - sounds like an ND decision.

ND Targets

Landon Tengwell (OT): 4-star, #27 overall (up 8 )
Jakailin Johnson (CB): 4-star, #33 overall (down 4)
Nolan Rucci (OT): 4-star, #34 overall (down 4)
Will Shipley (APB): 4-star, #36 (down 3)
Dont'e Thornton, Jr. (WR): 4-star, #52 overall (down 1)
Rocco Spindler (OG): 4-star, #55 overall (up 22)
Donovan Edwards (RB): 4-star, #59 overall (down 1)
Thomas Fidone (TE): 4-star, #60 overall (up 144)
Derrick Davis (OLB): 4-star, #78 overall (up 6)
Aaron Armitage (SDE): 4-star, #113 overall (down 3)
Ceyair Wright (ATH): 4-star, #119 overall (up 26)
George Rooks (SDE): 4-star, #123 overall (down 7)
Garrett Delinger (OT): 4-star, #155 overall (up 93)
Wyatt Milum (OT): 4-star, #158 overall (down 6)
Christian Dixon (WR): 4-star, #167 overall (down 6)

There are many more ND targets listed in the Top 250, but I listed those where I believe ND is heavily involved, although to be fair, Jakailin Johnson, Donovan Edwards, and Derrick Davis feel like longshots at this point. It's only February, so this list will change dramatically over the next few months.

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Old 02-11-2020, 10:35 PM
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Who is a must in your opinion for this class?

Shipley, Johnson, and Armitage?
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Rubio at 99 is pretty important.
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Old 02-11-2020, 11:27 PM
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Who is a must in your opinion for this class?

Shipley, Johnson, and Armitage?
I think the only "must get" is Shipley. He is basically Kyle Hamilton on offense - a great fit for ND and an elite recruit. When Dabo Swinney, Ryan Day, Nick Saban, Kirby Smart, and Brian Kelly are making visits to his high school, you know you're dealing with an elite recruit. I think this is a two-team race between ND and Clemson, with OSU a very real threat as well. It sounds like the relationship between him and Lance Taylor is really solid, so right now, I think ND has a good chance at securing his commitment in the late spring/early summer. Also, people are comparing him to Tyree because of the APB designation, but they are really different backs. Shipley is a lot bigger who can run between the tackles. Really need to add him to the RB room.

ND is in on a lot of elite OL, including some not mentioned above. I think ND needs two from the Rucci/Tengwall/Spindler/Dellinger/Milum group. That will be tough sledding because I don't think ND leads for any of them. Right now, it sounds like Rucci and Tengwall to PSU, Spindler and Dellinger to Michigan, and Milum to West Virginia. But ND has recruited OL as good as anyone in the country, and a lot of these guys will be on campus for a huge recruiting weekend in March. Add two of those guys with Blake Fisher and possibly one other OL recruit, and ND most likely has the best OL class in the country in 2021.

I like Armitage a lot, but not sure I would classify him as a must get. Definitely want him in the class, though. It's amazing how well ND has recruited DL the last few years after a few cycles of not being able to get anybody. I think a guy who is not ranked in the Top 250 right now, David Abiara from Texas, will be a Top 250 guy soon after getting offers from Alabama, LSU, and Texas A&M recently. George Rooks is another guy I like, but I honestly have no idea where his recruitment stands - he has an elite offer list though (Alabama, Auburn, Georgia, Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State).

I would have classified Jaikalin Johnson as a must get a few months ago, but he has been trending to OSU for a while. ND has a lot of ground to make up. It's been reported that his HS coach is on ND's radar for CB coach if they miss out on Mike Mickens from Cincinnati. That would definitely change things. I like Ceyair Wright from Loyola in LA a lot - due to his ability and ND's need for true CBs. ND is also in on some 3-stars who could receive a rankings bump, but Wright would be a really good get from an area that ND has not been recruiting well lately. I really don't have a read on his recruitment at all, but he's certainly one to watch.

I also think ND needs another Top 150-ish WR (or two). Lorenzo Styles is a WR recruit, but OSU wanted him as a CB, which says something. He is just an elite athlete. If he moves to CB, ND needs another elite guy to join Colzie. Christian Dixon is a guy to watch, although I really don't know much about his recruitment - FWIW, there is one "crystal ball" for ND on his 247 page. I think it's too early to really say though.

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Great stuff tneun! Yes, that March weekend will be huge for OL recruiting. I think Dellinger likes us a lot and I could see him winding up at ND. Spindler may be like the Braiden McGregor recruitment where we are on him hard but he winds up at M. Will be interesting to see if there is any movement with Rucci or Tengwell after PSU let their OL coach go.
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Who is a must in your opinion for this class?

Shipley, Johnson, and Armitage?
CBs and RBs are the most important imo.
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Offensive Position Rankings

Tyler Buchner: #2 DT-QB
Lorenzo Styles: #7 WR
Deion Colzie: #11 WR
Cane Berrong: #12 TE
Blake Fisher: #3 OT
Greg Crippen: #5 OG
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Offensive Position Rankings

Tyler Buchner: #2 DT-QB
Lorenzo Styles: #7 WR
Deion Colzie: #11 WR
Cane Berrong: #12 TE
Blake Fisher: #3 OT
Greg Crippen: #5 OG
This is how you win. Also, this all Iíve asked for in recruiting. Top 5-15 at each position with a couple of top 3 at their position. That usually equates to getting top 150 guys yearly and top 5-8 classes. Now they need a #3 corner and a #8-10 DE.
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This is how you win. Also, this all Iíve asked for in recruiting. Top 5-15 at each position with a couple of top 3 at their position. That usually equates to getting top 150 guys yearly and top 5-8 classes. Now they need a #3 corner and a #8-10 DE.
ND is also playing by a different set of rules. Of the top 15 at each position MAYBE half can qualify for ND. Half of those are interested in a serious academic environment. Do the math and it is apples to oranges when comparing them to OSU, Clemson, Alabama, etc.
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Who is a must in your opinion for this class?

Shipley, Johnson, and Armitage?
I typically hate this term, because if you have solid backup options then usually youíll be fine...but they have to land a top RB and Shipley looks like the most likely one.

They also need a top notch CB. Jakailin Johnson and Ceyair Wright are two guys specifically that are top targets.

David Abiara is a rare breed at defensive end, so hopefully Elston can keep that train rolling.

After not taking a LB last year, you gotta land a few guys this cycle, but that board is still very much fluid. Hard to determine specific names that would be must gets.

And then with all the OL talent they are in on and after only taking 2 guys this cycle, I would say at least 2 of their top guys need to end up in the class - and Iím confident that will happen.
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Defensive Position Rankings

Gabriel Rubio: #8 DT
Justin Walters: #17 Safety

One note, Justin Walters is currently listed as a three-star, the only member of ND's class 8-man class who is not a four-star.
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Who is a must in your opinion for this class?

Shipley, Johnson, and Armitage?
As of today I would say Shipley, Thornton, Abiara, Rucci OR Milum, Spindler OR Tengwall, Wright. These are the exact type of players we all talk about ND needing to land. The must win, top academics, and top rated players.

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ND Targets

Will Shipley: 4-star, #1 APB
Donovan Edwards: 4-star, #2 RB
Treveyon Henderson: 4-star, #3 RB
Corey Kiner: 4-star, #7 RB
Dont'e Thornton, Jr.: 4-star, #9 WR
Jayden Thomas: 4-star, #20 WR
Cristian Dixon: 4-star, #27 WR
Thomas Fidone: 4-star, #3 TE
Tristian Leigh: 4-star, #4 OT
Landon Tengwall: 4-star, #5 OT
Nolan Rucci: 4-star, #6 OT
Garrett Dillinger: 4-star, #22 OT
Wyatt Milum: 4-star, #23 OT
Pat Coogan: 3-star, #36 OT
Rocco Spindler: 4-star, #2 OG
Aaron Armitage: 4-star, #7 SDE
George Rooks: 4-star, #8 SDE
David Abiara: 3-star, #21 SDE
Jason Onye: 3-star, #39 SDE
Derrick Davis: 4-star, #3 OLB
Bryce Steele: 3-star, #26 OLB
Jakailin Johnson: 4-star, #2 CB
Ishmael Ibraheem: 4-star, #16 CB
Daylan Carnell: 4-star, #20 CB
Devonta Smith: 3-star, #30 CB
Dyson McCutcheon: 3-star, NR CB
JD Coffey: 4-star, #5 S
Jalen Slocum: 3-star, #16 S
Xamarion Gordon: 3-star, #24 S
Donovan McMillon: 3-star, NR S
Ceyair Wright: 4-star, #5 ATH
DJ Harvey: 3-star, #30 ATH
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Kind of weird to see Alabama currently ranked #52.
Of course that will change.
The University of Kansas should screen shot this and blow it up and frame it. Probably the only time they'll be ahead of Alabama in football.

https://n.rivals.com/team_rankings/2...teams/football

Mack Brown must have something magic cooking at UNC.
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Kind of weird to see Alabama currently ranked #52.
Of course that will change.
The University of Kansas should screen shot this and blow it up and frame it. Probably the only time they'll be ahead of Alabama in football.

https://n.rivals.com/team_rankings/2...teams/football

Mack Brown must have something magic cooking at UNC.
They are really good at allowing coaches to cheat at UNC... I donít trust Mack Brown for sh*t and heís an average coach at best. Vince Young is the only reason he got a title...running two receiver patterns...smh.
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What happened to Dixon, did we stop recruiting him?
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