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Old 10-17-2020, 12:07 AM
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God, youíre a b1tch. Whatís UNC done thatís so impressive this yr? Giving up over 40 pts to a Va Tech team w/o 15 players? I think theyíll lose to Clemson, rather handily, but youíre flippant attitude makes me sick.
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Elder, 100%. Somehow his return to NC has them playing at a high level. It may be better assistant coaches, better recruiting... I think the shift from Fedora (almost anyone would have been an improvement) is a major factor, and will wear off as the season progresses.
Going back 10 years, Mack has not kept up. Texas tanked before they eased him out because he was resting on his oars, and that will occur again in Chapel Hill. The telling incident was his visit to Saban at Alabama, where the weight room dumbfounded him - his comment was, something like, "I didn't know all this stuff was available"... - well, that's your job, Mack.
As a result, I also feel that they are very over rated - and will get spanked when they face strong opposition.
Donít get me wrong, I appreciate what heís done at this point. Itís just having seen them play, I donít think ND is an underdog in that game. Could they lose? Yes. However, ND looks like the better team up to this point.

Iíd still give my left but to have Howell at QB. If he was NDís QB, Iíd say they could beat Clemson.
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Would showing some positivity kill you guys? You all are acting like the season's over.
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Old 10-17-2020, 11:12 AM
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Miracles can & do happen but ND beating Clemson even at home is not going to be one of them.
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Miracles can & do happen but ND beating Clemson even at home is not going to be one of them.
If 2020 is any indicator, anything - ANYTHING can happen...
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If 2020 is any indicator, anything - ANYTHING can happen...
Yes ND will be the underdog against Clemson, but I don't think it would be a "miracle" if they did win. I think the game will be close.

As far as North Carolina, they seem to be a tad overrated to me. No way are they the number 5 team in the country. They would probably be the underdog against any team in the top 15. I would be surprised if they end the season in the top 10, more likely they will settle in around 20 - 25 ranking.
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Ah, the love this fanbase shows for the Irish is simply marvelous...NOT! Why worry so much about a game which won't be played for weeks, no telling what each week will bring to teams due to Covid with zero certainty each game will be played as scheduled. That said, ND will field the most talented team Clemson will face and reminded by the Game of the Century when FSU came to ND and LOST, makes me optimistic this year's squad can do the same. Pains me to be in the minority of supporting and believing in my team and while Clemson deserves the hype and respect, provided we're healthy and gaining momentum into the game, gives me hope the Echoes will awake and lead the Irish to a close but definitive WIN!
But rather than getting the cart too far ahead of the horse, let's focus on beating a quality L'ville team and go from there. GO IRISH!
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Old 10-17-2020, 04:24 PM
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Would showing some positivity kill you guys? You all are acting like the season's over.
I'm about as positive as they come, though a top 5 win like this would do wonders for my case/argument.
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Have you seen there backup?.....DJ uaigelelei. 6’4 250lbs. Former 5 star. AND Dabo has played in every game. Uh-umm....you know, getting him ready for next season.
Anyways, the kid is a beast also and isn’t taken down easily.
Why would a coach play his back-up QB in every game? That implies long-term thinking. Doesn't Dabo need to make sure that his first string QB (& first string OL) gets all of the possible meaningful snaps since first string QBs are usually works in progress?

Clemson: First string QB passing attempts: 116; Back-ups: 28 (19.4% of all passes attempted by back-up QBs)

ND: First string QB passing attempts: 75; Back-ups: 2 Just 2.6% of all passes attempted by back-up QB)

Clemson's fourth string QB has as many completions (2) as ND's 2nd string has passing attempts (2).

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Why would a coach play his back-up QB in every game? That implies long-term thinking. Doesn't Dabo need to make sure that his first string QB (& first string OL) gets all of the possible meaningful snaps since first string QBs are usually works in progress?
It helps to have a back-up 5 star too. But, that's another topic..

My only gripe has always been to get your backups as many meaningful snaps as you can to build that depth. BK is doing that now. He still needs to do that with the qb however. But I understand right now, our starter for next year is still in high school....
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I'm about as positive as they come, though a top 5 win like this would do wonders for my case/argument.
You are incredibly positive. If BK could manage a victory it would change the whole view of the program. The media would take us serious and not put us in the also ran category.
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Why would a coach play his back-up QB in every game? That implies long-term thinking. Doesn't Dabo need to make sure that his first string QB (& first string OL) gets all of the possible meaningful snaps since first string QBs are usually works in progress?

Clemson: First string QB passing attempts: 116; Back-ups: 28 (19.4% of all passes attempted by back-up QBs)

ND: First string QB passing attempts: 75; Back-ups: 2 Just 2.6% of all passes attempted by back-up QB)

Clemson's fourth string QB has as many completions (2) as ND's 2nd string has passing attempts (2).
What? So because BK doesnít have a second-stringer sling it around during garbage time in the 4th quarter, that means heís not thinking long-term?

Few things. Brendon Clark is the second stringer. He was not available due to COVID protocol against USF (where ND won 52-0). So, heís only been available for two games, Duke and FSU. It seemed apparent the offense took a little while to get going against Duke after a long, disjointed offseason - so it makes sense to give Book most, if not all of the reps, so that the first-team offense can make some strides heading into the following week. Against FSU, why would BK/Rees throw the ball late in the 4th quarter during that blowout? They have one of the best OL units in the country and could ice away the game pounding the ball with the RBs. Case in point, the last drive was 12 plays, 75 yards, and took up 6:30 in the 4th quarter, all but assuring FSU couldít come back, even when they stopped ND on 4th-and-goal. Why take a chance throwing the ball and potentially creating a turnover for the other team?

Clemson is averaging 185.5 yards rushing/game, tied for 25th in the country. ND is averaging 270.7 yards rushing/game, good for 5th in the country (behind three triple option teams). ND has been able to run over, around, and through opposing defenses with their OL and RBs. No need to have a second-string QB toss it around.
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God, you’re a b1tch. What’s UNC done that’s so impressive this yr? Giving up over 40 pts to a Va Tech team w/o 15 players? I think they’ll lose to Clemson, rather handily, but you’re flippant attitude makes me sick.
What has Nd done? Oh Struggling with Louisville!
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Would showing some positivity kill you guys? You all are acting like the season's over.
I agree, the pessimism is exhausting. However, realistically, this team has not performed well at all the past 2 weeks, while Clemson has bludgeoned everyone. I think this will be the only game ND loses, but they will lose by 3+ TDs.
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What has Nd done? Oh Struggling with Louisville!
And UNC barely beat BC and had to hold off a MASH unit VA Tech team.
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I honestly just hope we can hang.
And then youíll have these same people saying ND chokes in big games.
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And UNC barely beat BC and had to hold off a MASH unit VA Tech team.
So basically unc and ND are very similar. Got it!
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And UNC barely beat BC and had to hold off a MASH unit VA Tech team.
Anyone thinking UNC is a sure bet to beat ND has not watched them play.

I think after today we all know this team is not beating Clemson with Book under centre.
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So basically unc and ND are very similar. Got it!
No, bc ND beat FSU and UNC is currently down 24-0.
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No, bc ND beat FSU and UNC is currently down 24-0.
Oh...NC is gonna beat us...but it won't be until after Clemson straps us into the bang bus.

If that game ends up scheduled for prime time, I might jump off a building onto a bike with no seat.
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Oh...NC is gonna beat us...but it won't be until after Clemson straps us into the bang bus.

If that game ends up scheduled for prime time, I might jump off a building onto a bike with no seat.
UNC, who just lost to FSU? Some of you are legitimately mentally ill. You look for any reason to tear down ND.
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