Michigan is REALLY bad

[ELDER06]

Originally Posted by coltssb

Then why has this message board and ND fans alike been saying BK can’t win a big game? Because he hasn’t until last week. Oklahoma in 2012. A 9-3 LSU team that had a lot of guys not even playing.
USC when Carroll left. Stanford when Harbaughs guys all left.
Again, the point, Michigan has been stagnant just like ND in terms of big wins against quality opponents. Top 10 opponents. Michigan is about two years away from where ND was in 2016. They have a decent defense usually. They just lack top talent at the skill positions and QB. Sound familiar? They would be stupid to dismiss Harbaugh after this season.

The biggest issue is this Michigan team has quit. To me that’s the sign a struggling coach needs to go. I’ll say it again, Harbaugh is a good coach, sometimes things don’t work out. He should step down and look to get back to the NFL.

[DamshaBua]

Originally Posted by ELDER06

Pretty remarkable the paths ND & Michigan have taken since Michigan beat down ND last yr.

Did they throw the ball ten times? I really don't know. It was like the Niners playoff game last year where Garoppolo threw the ball 8 times. That ND game was traumatizing; we watched Michigan run for 11 yards every play.

I hate USC. But I hate Michigan more right now, mostly because of King Khaki.

[AtLeastMySisWasIrish]

Originally Posted by ELDER06

I wouldn’t mind if he came back to the NFL to coach the Bengals. He’s a good coach, but sometimes things don’t work out.

You DO NOT Want him ruining Joe Burrow's development!

On a side note, as a Badger Grad and forced to endure the awful football of the early "80's nothing could be sweeter, especially now that I live in the land of the scUM A**holes. Badgers have now beaten them 5 out of the last 7 games with the 2 most recent being total beat downs. Walmart should be putting their fan gear on sale following this game as put a fork in them cuz they are done. Part of me wants Coach Crazy Khaki pants to stay but with paying him $7.5MM/yr, can't see how they'll agree to continue to throw good money after bad considering the collapse of a historical program. GO IRISH And ON WISCONSIN!!

[Synoptico]

Originally Posted by coltssb

Then why has this message board and ND fans alike been saying BK can’t win a big game? Because he hasn’t until last week. Oklahoma in 2012. A 9-3 LSU team that had a lot of guys not even playing.
USC when Carroll left. Stanford when Harbaughs guys all left.
Again, the point, Michigan has been stagnant just like ND in terms of big wins against quality opponents. Top 10 opponents. Michigan is about two years away from where ND was in 2016. They have a decent defense usually. They just lack top talent at the skill positions and QB. Sound familiar? They would be stupid to dismiss Harbaugh after this season.

Yeah, but Harbaugh hasnt been winning ANY games, let alone the big one

[rocketsurgery]

Originally Posted by coltssb

Then why has this message board and ND fans alike been saying BK can’t win a big game? Because he hasn’t until last week. Oklahoma in 2012. A 9-3 LSU team that had a lot of guys not even playing.
USC when Carroll left. Stanford when Harbaughs guys all left.
Again, the point, Michigan has been stagnant just like ND in terms of big wins against quality opponents. Top 10 opponents. Michigan is about two years away from where ND was in 2016. They have a decent defense usually. They just lack top talent at the skill positions and QB. Sound familiar? They would be stupid to dismiss Harbaugh after this season.

This is more than a stretch. It's a false narrative.

[ND_JACK]

Originally Posted by DamshaBua

I hate USC. But I hate Michigan more right now, mostly because of King Khaki.

I couldn’t agree more. I never liked Michigan but once Crazy Khaki took over I really started to hate them.

[potownhero]

Originally Posted by ND_JACK

I couldn’t agree more. I never liked Michigan but once Crazy Khaki took over I really started to hate them.

#BringBackRichRod

[TorontoCroatian]

Michigan losing sustains me.

[coltssb]

Originally Posted by Synoptico

Yeah, but Harbaugh hasnt been winning ANY games, let alone the big one

This year. He’s having a down year. Just like BK did in 2016. Before that he’s been pretty consistent at winning 9-10 games and throughout his career.

[coltssb]

Originally Posted by rocketsurgery

This is more than a stretch. It's a false narrative.

Call it what you want. I hate defending Michigan as the next guy but I’m not blind. Harbaugh took over a 5-7 Hoke team and went 10-3 the next year stomping Florida in a bowl. Michigan in fact has gone
2015 10-3
2016 10-3 beating too 10 Wisky.
2017 8-5 beating Florida to start the season.
2018 10-3 loss to ND and beat Wisky and Penn St.
2019 9-4 clobbered ND
2020. Obviously down.
Not amazing but not terrible either.
He’s had to resurrect the recruiting and build up the lines along with finding that top QB. Which he still hasn’t. As I have mentioned In my previous posts, the Michigan program is very similar to what BK has had to endure during his time here. The only difference between him and BK during their same years coaching at this point during there careers at their schools, is that BK loss more head scratchers where Harbaugh has loss to top competition. Albeit clobbered hilariously by top competition, but not the Tulsa style games. Harbaugh is having his BK moment of 2016. He’s losing to teams and they look disinterested. But Harbaugh’s record just like BK,s should show you to be weary for the future of Michigan if they keep Harbaugh. Especially, if he ever gets that Andrew Luck style qb. Adding to that. BK has had a litany of terrible qbs during his tenure at ND. So has Harbaugh.

[TorontoCroatian]

Originally Posted by coltssb

Call it what you want. I hate defending Michigan as the next guy but I’m not blind. Harbaugh took over a 5-7 Hoke team and went 10-3 the next year stomping Florida in a bowl. Michigan in fact has gone
2015 10-3
2016 10-3 beating too 10 Wisky.
2017 8-5 beating Florida to start the season.
2018 10-3 loss to ND and beat Wisky and Penn St.
2019 9-4 clobbered ND
2020. Obviously down.
Not amazing but not terrible either.
He’s had to resurrect the recruiting and build up the lines along with finding that top QB. Which he still hasn’t. As I have mentioned In my previous posts, the Michigan program is very similar to what BK has had to endure during his time here. The only difference between him and BK during their same years coaching at this point during there careers at their schools, is that BK loss more head scratchers where Harbaugh has loss to top competition. Albeit clobbered hilariously by top competition, but not the Tulsa style games. Harbaugh is having his BK moment of 2016. He’s losing to teams and they look disinterested. But Harbaugh’s record just like BK,s should show you to be weary for the future of Michigan if they keep Harbaugh. Especially, if he ever gets that Andrew Luck style qb. Adding to that. BK has had a litany of terrible qbs during his tenure at ND. So has Harbaugh.

One key stat, I think he is 1-6 vs Michigan State and O$U. Getting paid $8M per year, when he was hired, to contemplate such a horrible record against his rivals can't be acceptable for them...even if he is a "michigan man".

Ps his win against us was in a monsoon. If we played them this year even at michigan, I think everyone knows we curb stomp them.

Wait until o$u plays them later on this year, if day wants, they might be able to put up 70 or 80 points with ease.

[Jersey Irish]

Originally Posted by ELDER06

Campbell or Fickell.

Doubt Fickell, since he has Bucknuts bloodlines, Could see him down the road as Kelly's successor after he retires

[ELDER06]

Originally Posted by Jersey Irish

Doubt Fickell, since he has Bucknuts bloodlines, Could see him down the road as Kelly's successor after he retires

I agree it’s a tough sell, but Bo coached at OSU too. I don’t think Ryan Day is going anywhere and he’s not going to be at Cincy much longer.

[Texham]

Originally Posted by TorontoCroatian

Wait until o$u plays them later on this year, if day wants, they might be able to put up 70 or 80 points with ease.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sport...-jim-harbaugh/

[Jersey Irish]

Originally Posted by tneun89

I believe there are a bunch of recruits in town - including Donovan Edwards - to witness this massacre and the hammering of the final nail in Harbaugh’s coffin.

That's awesome news. Bring back Brady Hoke, lol!

[Green Goblin]

What’s the all-time win count at now?

We have to be making enormous inroads on it these last few years.

[ND_JACK]

Originally Posted by Green Goblin

What’s the all-time win count at now?

We have to be making enormous inroads on it these last few years.

ND ( 73.4) 860 - 312 -33 (includes the 21 wins from 2012 and 2013)
MI ( 73.3) 937 - 341 - 35

[Green Goblin]

14-0 Rutgers midway through the second

[FaithInIrishForever]

Originally Posted by Green Goblin

14-0 Rutgers midway through the second

QB change still 17-7 Rutgers at the half

[Green Goblin]

Michigan had 18 yards rushing first half

They have a 5 star rb...

[ELDER06]

Imagine trying to convince a college football fan in 1998 than in just a little over 20 yrs; Michigan, Penn St, Nebraska, Tennessee, and Florida St would be among the worst teams in college football

[Green Goblin]

3rd and 14 and they get a delay of game... lol

[Green Goblin]

Some REALLY weird **** in this game

35-35 overtime!

[Green Goblin]

Both teams missed FGs in OT

Double OT

This is the TOILET BOWL!

[Green Goblin]

Rutgers with the TD very first play of double OT and Michigan D even knew it was a screen! Lol

Excellent pass. Literally a perfect pass. Anywhere else and its not a TD.