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Old 11-15-2020, 02:36 PM
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Iím seriously worried that the season may be about to end. The number of games canceled yesterday is alarming.
If play does continue, will there actually be bowl games and a playoff?
If play does not continue beyond two or three weeks from now, can a champion be crowned? It doesnít seem right to allow a team thatís played maybe 5 games to be crowned.
It is a HUGE accomplishment for ANY university to play 8 or more games this year. A true reflection of commitment at all levels of the university. Shouldnít that also be factored in?
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Old 11-15-2020, 04:54 PM
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No, f that. The majority of games were played this weekend, donít let the pssies win this battle.
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Old 11-15-2020, 04:57 PM
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No, f that. The majority of games were played this weekend, donít let the pssies win this battle.
Fully agreed.

We took care of business on and off the field. Do not give into the losers looking for excuses as their seasons implode (looking at you Harbaugh, Franklin, etc).
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Old 11-16-2020, 12:31 AM
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Would winning an NC this year be tainted since a lot of teams will not even have a chance to get to get to the playoffs.
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Old 11-16-2020, 12:39 AM
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Would winning an NC this year be tainted since a lot of teams will not even have a chance to get to get to the playoffs.
The Pac 12 is the only conference that can puts teams into the playoff who will be affected if the close down the season. That still give the four other P5 conferences the opportunity to fill one of the four playoff spots. All the non P5 schools are out of luck anyhow due to the playoff structure anyhow.
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Old 11-16-2020, 01:16 AM
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Mightíve been tainted if OSU couldnít participate. However, since the B10 is playing, itís fair game.
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Old 11-16-2020, 01:43 AM
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Would winning an NC this year be tainted since a lot of teams will not even have a chance to get to get to the playoffs.
Yes....yes it would. Our opinion doesn't really matter. This season has always been branded with an asterisk.
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Yes....yes it would. Our opinion doesn't really matter. This season has always been branded with an asterisk.
Who gives a f**k? Arenít Bama, Clemson, and OSU still playing? The answer is yes, so itís a legit season
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Old 11-16-2020, 03:04 AM
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Yea, I believe there will forever be an asterisk on this season but a Championship is a Championship regardless. Look at how many asterisks Bama has in their history but they still "claim" them all. LOL
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Who gives a f**k? Aren’t Bama, Clemson, and OSU still playing? The answer is yes, so it’s a legit season
Hahaha and they've almost all had games that have been canceled this year.. And we aren't playing our typical killer schedule. This year might count for you but it sure as hell won't count for most. I mean, OSU could be walking into the playoffs at 5-0 at this point. Its comical.
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I don’t know about that Echo. The season is being played and everyone is on the field. OSU and Bama will be in playoffs. When one of those teams wins, no one is going to question that it happened in this structure. You win the games you are scheduled and able to play. The season wasn’t always 12 games or even 10. We still claim 1929 when we won 9 and never even played a single home game. Sure 2020 will always be remembered for being a strange and untraditional year, but the guys are playing and we aren’t just guessing at who is best. 2020 will have an asterisk, but if we win it’s nothing like the split Nattys we saw in the 90s. If anything, the winner of this year should be noted for overcoming more obstacles than any other championship team in recent memory.
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Old 11-16-2020, 05:08 PM
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Over time that asterisk gets to be smaller and smaller and most will remember only the the final results.....ND wins unanimously another NC
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Old 11-16-2020, 05:23 PM
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If ND wins as it is right now they will have to beat Clemson twice, Bama and OSU. If they do that I donít see an asterisk. If SEC or B10 opts out it will asterisk for years. If Clemson doesnít make the ACC title game for some reason and we donít play them again it will also be tainted.
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You can call the regular season now if you want.

Bama
ND
OSU
Clemson with Lawrence

Play the playoffs.
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I donít know about that Echo. The season is being played and everyone is on the field. OSU and Bama will be in playoffs. When one of those teams wins, no one is going to question that it happened in this structure. You win the games you are scheduled and able to play. The season wasnít always 12 games or even 10. We still claim 1929 when we won 9 and never even played a single home game. Sure 2020 will always be remembered for being a strange and untraditional year, but the guys are playing and we arenít just guessing at who is best. 2020 will have an asterisk, but if we win itís nothing like the split Nattys we saw in the 90s. If anything, the winner of this year should be noted for overcoming more obstacles than any other championship team in recent memory.
Part of winning a title is surviving the gauntlet of a full schedule. Im sure the 4 most deserving teams will be in the playoffs, but if 2 of those teams only had to play half their games, it's my personal opinion that it shouldn't count.
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Old 11-16-2020, 06:22 PM
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Part of winning a title is surviving the gauntlet of a full schedule. Im sure the 4 most deserving teams will be in the playoffs, but if 2 of those teams only had to play half their games, it's my personal opinion that it shouldn't count.
It does depend on who wins. If the winner is the one who has to play the longer run it should be a slam dunk but then Roger Maris sat with an asterisk for 55 years so...
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It does depend on who wins. If the winner is the one who has to play the longer run it should be a slam dunk but then Roger Maris sat with an asterisk for 55 years so...
I look at it if Clemson, ND or Bama win then there should be no asterisk. They ran the gauntlet and beat the best teams to win. TOSU wonít even play all the teams on their conference. Let alone play a conference championship perhaps.
So, no, to tOSU.
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Ohio St being 5-0 will not be that 'amazing'

Think about how many 5-0 teams there are in a typical season and then how many teams end up regular season with 0 or 1 losses.

A 12 game season takes it toll and it is tough to stay undefeated over the entire season. (I think my stats are right on this) If a team has a 95% chance of winning each game it plays, it has a 77% chance of winning its first five games but only a 54% chance to win all 12 games.
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OSU wonít be 5-0 after IU beats them this weekend. One can hope right.
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Old 11-17-2020, 12:09 AM
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OSU wonít be 5-0 after IU beats them this weekend. One can hope right.
If that happens, it could be argued that ND might not even be the best team in the state...
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If that happens, it could be argued that ND might not even be the best team in the state...
If that was to happen I am sure ND would have their shot against IU to settle that.
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If that was to happen I am sure ND would have their shot against IU to settle that.
Now wouldnít that be something that none of us would have ever imagined. Two IN teams in the CFP. Would rather it was Purdue over IU but oh well odds are low either state schools make it in.
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Old 11-17-2020, 02:41 AM
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Now wouldnít that be something that none of us would have ever imagined. Two IN teams in the CFP. Would rather it was Purdue over IU but oh well odds are low either state schools make it in.
Why would the odds be low that IU makes the playoff if they knock off OSU? If they go undefeated(I know, it'll only be 6/7/8-0, I forget what the B1G is playing) and win the B1GCG who else are they gonna pick? Especially if the Irish can knock off Clemson again.

Assuming Alabama beats Florida in the SECCG, that puts Clemson and UF at 2 losses so they're out. You'd have Alabama, ND, Indiana, X.
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Why would the odds be low that IU makes the playoff if they knock off OSU? If they go undefeated(I know, it'll only be 6/7/8-0, I forget what the B1G is playing) and win the B1GCG who else are they gonna pick? Especially if the Irish can knock off Clemson again.

Assuming Alabama beats Florida in the SECCG, that puts Clemson and UF at 2 losses so they're out. You'd have Alabama, ND, Indiana, X.
Because itís IU and the teams they have beaten are all having down years. They would still need to beat the Badgers even if they beat OSU. Possible? Yes. Likely? No.

Yes if they win one could always make the argument that they would be in. I guess I meant in general the odds are low they run the table foe the rest of the regularly season.
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Because itís IU and the teams they have beaten are all having down years. They would still need to beat the Badgers even if they beat OSU. Possible? Yes. Likely? No.

Yes if they win one could always make the argument that they would be in. I guess I meant in general the odds are low they run the table foe the rest of the regularly season.
Yes they still have to beat Wisconsin and then whoever in the B1GCG but that is what my scenario was. IU would still have beaten OSU and Wisconsin. Its not IU's fault PSU and Michigan are having ****** seasons. They would have beaten whoever was put in front of them, just as any other team. I don't think they would take an undefeated BYU or Cinci over an undefeated B1G champ just because it is IU. I'm not trying to argue, I think you just misunderstood my previous post. For what its worth it will all be moot anyway if OSU lays the smackdown on them this weekend.
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