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Old 11-22-2020, 03:42 PM
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You still have not refuted my points. You can cherry pick my posts, I am not going to allow you to play the victim when you are constantly making comments about AOC, socialism, antififa and then trying to balance card. Most republicans I know, donít even know who antifia is. Your posts as Jimbo mentioned are clear indications whether you mean them or not that all left leaning folks support these things you mention and you always respond trying to pigeon hole me and others into these microaisms. So please donít play the victim. Donít assume your wife is more liberal than me either maybe she is I donít care, just thought I would throw that in there since we are talking about
assumptions and all.

With all the hard right talking points, AOC, Venezuela, love for Sidney Powell, antififa bad, protests etc. my mind would blow if I saw you walk into a booth and vote for a democrat. uhh I forgot to add the biggest of them all the main stream media.
Okay. You got me. Case closed. You win.
But just to clarify...you actually know someone who doesnít know what Antifa is? Really? I donít.
I do appreciate that youíve upped your game and provide references now. Some of them are pretty good. I just donít seem to have the amount of time necessary to delve into methodology of research and reporting of some of those references, but some are indeed pretty good on the surface.
I canít remember claiming to be a victim.
Iím glad you canít see me vote. It might be too messy to have to clean up your blown mind.
Thank you for this nice Sunday morning discussion. I find I must move on to other endeavors.
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Old 11-22-2020, 11:43 PM
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Did Sidney Powell quit Team Trump, or was she fired?
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Old 11-22-2020, 11:48 PM
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Never mind, she was too ridiculous for Team Trump, even. And which of you here were claiming she was credible?
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Old 11-23-2020, 09:05 AM
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Never mind, she was too ridiculous for Team Trump, even. And which of you here were claiming she was credible?
You think Mike Flynn might be having 2nd thoughts about his choice of attorney right about now?
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Old 11-23-2020, 02:36 PM
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He took that QAnon oath, too, so he’s just crazy enough to stay the course.
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Old 11-25-2020, 09:48 PM
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You know who doesnít need a pardon? An innocent person.
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Old 11-27-2020, 06:37 AM
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Never mind, she was too ridiculous for Team Trump, even. And which of you here were claiming she was credible?
She dropped that bomb these folks were waiting for...


Kraken? What professional even says that? Clearly targeting a low educated individual to buy her ****** books. Sad.

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Old 11-30-2020, 09:46 PM
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I came across this today and it said some things that I've been doing a poor job of articulating..... Trump End Game, in particular, this passage....
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The Trump team (and much of the GOP) is working backwards, desperately trying to find something, anything to support the presidentís aggrieved feelings, rather than objectively considering the evidence and reacting as warranted.
If you really want to treat yourself, visit the comments section and wade through a tragic refresher on the terrible state of affairs we find ourselves in.
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Old 12-01-2020, 05:48 AM
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You know who doesnít need a pardon? An innocent person.
Yeah, he is innocent. Hard to prosecute a case when there is none. The only party keeping it going is Judge Sullivan via some unbelievable judicial activism. The case should have been dismissed months ago. I don't know if its just ignorance to the case that causes the opinions of some, or outright denial of the facts and the mental gymnastics required to go with it.
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Old 12-01-2020, 05:54 AM
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Just checking in, everyone still feeling the election was on the level? I know I'm still standing firm...
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Old 12-01-2020, 01:14 PM
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Just checking in, everyone still feeling the election was on the level? I know I'm still standing firm...
This is contemporary American politics, my friend. Virtually nobody is particularly likely to change his/her mind... ..including you and me.

To more directly answer your question, I've seen a lot of accusations thrown about but nothing that would convince me that this was an unfair election. With each batch of new lawsuits/press conferences, the #stopthesteal efforts look more and more like a strawman effort.

Most recently, Kraken-expert and former-trump-attorney Sydney Powell produced a new filing that included allegations of rampant fraud in Edison county, MI in spite of the fact that there is no Edison county in Michigan (and, quite possibly, the entire US). Carrying on the theme of the Hugo-Chavez-concocted Dominion/Hammer conspiracy, last week we had a "Computer Scientist" lob accusations of USB's missing and produced conspicuously. Yet, the hearing failed to cover the fact that said voting center produced paper copies of all completed ballots that provide an audit trail of how votes were issued and that these paper trails are used to reconcile results against those stored in said voting machines. More recently, Col. Phil Waldron was presented as a Cyber Security expert to speak to claims made by other individuals of fraud in two Arizona counties. Not only did the people making these claims never sign an affidavit in support of them, not only did Giuliani himself make a point of noting that neither he nor Mr. Waldon could not say whether these claims were true or false but Phil Waldron can hardly be called a Cyber Security expert and isn't even from Arizona. I'm sure Col. Waldron is a nice enough guy but seeing him presented as an expert on Cyber Security when he seems more qualified for dispensing great drink than guidance on securing elections (or anything) reinforces the notion that this whole thing is a solution (i.e., making elections secure, "saving the republic from tyranny") trying to find a problem (i.e., unfair, unsound elections).

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Old 12-01-2020, 02:58 PM
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Yeah, he is innocent. Hard to prosecute a case when there is none. The only party keeping it going is Judge Sullivan via some unbelievable judicial activism. The case should have been dismissed months ago. I don't know if its just ignorance to the case that causes the opinions of some, or outright denial of the facts and the mental gymnastics required to go with it.
Donít take my word for it. Take the word of Donald Trump. Go read his tweet about firing Flynn.

Of course youíre entrenched in your position.... just like the senators congratulating ďpresident elect trump ď on his victory this year.

The world must be terrifying to cause people to retreat from reality and wrap themselves in a warm blanket of lies. And then pretend that others are simply ill-informed if they realize that Dominion servers donít, and CANíT, change the paper ballots that are recounted.

Enjoy that Qool Aid, man. You be you.
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Old 12-01-2020, 11:13 PM
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The Grifter n Chief is at it again....Trump University...Trump steaks...Trumps charitable foundation...Trump casinos....one scam after another....

Now he is raising 10s of millions....sending out more fundraising mail now then he did before the election.... "help fight election fraud and save the country"....yet in the fine print the first 75 cents of every dollar does not go to any phony election fight but to trumps political action committee for staff and travel etc,,,,etc is mostly anything he likes....

A sucker born every minute credited to the last great Carnival man PT BARNUM...trump has turned this into a science and turned his supporters into chumps!

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Old 12-02-2020, 06:03 AM
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Donít take my word for it. Take the word of Donald Trump. Go read his tweet about firing Flynn.

Of course youíre entrenched in your position.... just like the senators congratulating ďpresident elect trump ď on his victory this year.

The world must be terrifying to cause people to retreat from reality and wrap themselves in a warm blanket of lies. And then pretend that others are simply ill-informed if they realize that Dominion servers donít, and CANíT, change the paper ballots that are recounted.

Enjoy that Qool Aid, man. You be you.
Koolaid? Is it normal, or better yet legal in criminal cases for the government to withhold evidence? In my 22 years of court experince through depositions, trials in Fed and State courts, Suppression hearing etc its a really BIG no no for the prosecution to knowingly or otherwise withhold evidence from the defense. Those are irrefutable facts in the Flynn case, which apparently many are completely ignorant of or willfully denying. Given the preponderance of evidence, when fully released or close to it to Powell and Flynn, the FBI and DOJ said they had no case to move forward with and withdrew all charges. BTW ever see someone decide to change their plea in a case before especially in situation where they had new legal representation? That happens a lot.

And just to be clear and fair on the Logan Act violations Flynn was targeted for. Right now Biden could be brought under investigation for the same thing. Call balls and strikes.
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Old 12-02-2020, 11:36 AM
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Powell, Flynn, QAnon and you. Thereís no consideration of reality outside your own opinions. Trump says he fired Flynn for lying. Flynn said he was lying. Flynn said he was lying again. The ďevidenceĒ isnít close to Brady material, and isnít exculpatory at all, unless youíre as insane as Powell, or willing to do anything to cheat for Trumpís whim like Barr. Only after he fired his way to controlling the case did Barr pull this garbage out and pretend it was significant. And Barr isnít tethered by legality, see his efforts at substituting the federal government instead of Trump in the Carroll defamation case.

Your posturing as a legal expert doesnít cut it. Youíre unable to see whatís right there in front of you.
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Old 12-02-2020, 05:52 PM
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You're way off on Flynn. Everything that came from his arrest was fruit of the poisonous tree... No ifs, ands, or buts about it. You can't prosecute someone for what comes during or after an improper arrest in the first place. But, hey, if you want to use the same justification they used against Flynn, then it applies to everything Biden and his people are doing at this exact moment by talking to foreign powers.

As far as Barr, he's fairly objective despite what that queen bee b!tch policy has to say and that penc!l dick Schiff has to say. I would love to say Pelosi is ignorant of the law and Constitution but it's deeper and more devious than that - she has zero moral compass and will lie at every turn to get her way...same with Schiff, but he's more of a follower, not a leader. Exhibit A - impeachment. Exhibit B - all the nasty bs they said about Barr after his hearings, which GROSSLY misconstrued Barr's statements...I watched those hearings beginning to end and the public statements made by Pelosi weren't even close to what was said or what happened.

As far as voter fraud...there's only one party that NEVER calls for an audit...NEVER questions that vote...NEVER accepts voter IDs... Sounds like a bunch of f\/cking cheats to me. If that were the case in any game you played with your friends as a kids, you'd know your friend cheated or was cheating. Same rules apply here. Democrats are f\/cking tyrants and small-brained, banana republic jacka$$es. There are only a handful worth a damn like Joe Manchin...used to be Joe Donnelly, but he lost in the midterms. There are a few others, too, but not many.
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Old 12-02-2020, 06:10 PM
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there's only one party that NEVER calls for an audit
I wouldn't say 'never'
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Old 12-02-2020, 06:41 PM
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Lots of pent up anger from the Q-Crew....
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Old 12-02-2020, 09:36 PM
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Tell me texas, wow....looks like some just "cant handle the truth"

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Old 12-03-2020, 11:31 AM
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Cash for pardons. Could it possibly be true and if so, could thing ever get any lower than that?
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Old 12-03-2020, 01:33 PM
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Lots of pent up anger from the Q-Crew....
Shouldnít you be enjoying ladies night with ďthe squadĒ? 🤣🤣🤣 I keed. They donít have ladies night in socialist banana republics... 🤣🤣🤣 I keed again. Come back later folks...the 11 o clock show is different from the 9 o clock show.
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Old 12-03-2020, 01:48 PM
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Lol I like your post, Irishwavend! Just the lighthearted thing to read this morning.
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Old 12-03-2020, 02:40 PM
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Cash for pardons. Could it possibly be true and if so, could thing ever get any lower than that?
If true, then Trump could run for Governor of Illinois...
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Old 12-03-2020, 04:04 PM
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Sticking with a prior theme, I am obligated to point out that the people in the Rudy-led hearings being trotted out as "cybersecurity experts" are not checking out. Melissa Carone is an intern. The sum total of her experience appears to consist of installing security patches on PCs. This is the equivalent going to space camp once and passing oneself off as a rocket scientist. IMHO, Team Rudy is keystone-copping any of the veracity that their claims could possibly have. They should be letting the attorney leading the Wisconsin effort take point on these hearings.
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Old 12-03-2020, 06:49 PM
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If true, then Trump could run for Governor of Illinois...
And that guy's sentence was commuted by....... go ahead and guess......
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