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Old 11-10-2019, 07:49 PM
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You guys are going to laugh at me and I say almost Every year but Navy Scares me

They come in 7-1 in a weak conference, The American Athletic Conference. They will be nationally ranked in the 20's for good reason.

Perry has developed into the option QB i fear. The guy who makes good run decisions and option choices AND the guy who can throw a quality deep ball over man too man defense caused by a run heavy box

This is their easy UCONN win


Here's their Memphis loss


So I'm a bit worried. Will test our run defense like no other time before and now we need to defend the pass as well.

Some one tell me I'm overly concerned...please...
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This made me feel a bit better though they didn't have Perry at QB he was a slot back for this game
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Iím always worried about Navy. However, I have confidence in the Defense, even without Okwara.
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Old 11-11-2019, 07:14 PM
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im very worried about the navy game. NDs offense struggles to run the ball and the passing game hasn't been sharp all year. ND can not afford for the offense to be sloppy, ND will only get so many possessions in this game and they cant afford to leave any points on the field.

also if ND wins the coin toss im not sure it's a good idea to take the ball.
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im very worried about the navy game. NDs offense struggles to run the ball and the passing game hasn't been sharp all year. ND can not afford for the offense to be sloppy, ND will only get so many possessions in this game and they cant afford to leave any points on the field.

also if ND wins the coin toss im not sure it's a good idea to take the ball.
I HATE taking the kick. If you donít score on the opening drive, you put yourself at an immediate disadvantage
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Old 11-11-2019, 08:13 PM
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I HATE taking the kick. If you donít score on the opening drive, you put yourself at an immediate disadvantage
no kidding and specially against navy. how many times this year has ND gone 3 and out on their first offensive series.
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Im always worried about Navy, however I’m not sure how good they are. Granted I haven’t seen them play yet but their schedule to date has been a joke. The one descent team they played beat them.

I think our defense is well equipped to deal with the option and were favoured by ten for a reason. Losing this game at home would be inexcusable and I expect us to cover.
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Navy loves time consuming drives. The Irish will be lucky to have 8 possessions total in the game. They better make every drive count. 3 & out possessions are not an option.
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Navy loves time consuming drives. The Irish will be lucky to have 8 possessions total in the game. They better make every drive count. 3 & out possessions are not an option.
Completely agree. They not only need to score, but they need to score TDs. I have a ton of confidence in Lea and the defense, but Navy is going to control the clock and score some points - that's just how it works. The offense has to win this game. The defense has bailed ND out enough this year, time for the offense to do their job.

2018: ND had 12 possessions and won 44-22, but this was an all-time bad Navy team
2017: ND had 7 possessions (lost 1 possession due to a Finke fumble on a punt return) and barely won 24-17
2016: ND had 6 possessions and lost 28-27 (they actually scored on 5 of their 6 possessions, but were limited to 2 FGs)
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This made me feel a bit better though they didn't have Perry at QB he was a slot back for this game
Me too Faith. Perry is a magician at running this offense and ND had better have its best defensive effort of the year. Ex- Navy player Gillman better coach his teammates and let them know just what is coming and be locked in on their assignments. Would not surprise me if he is the leading tackler.
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What you see here is coach Brian Newberry's new defense he has brought to Navy
Its a 4-2-5 with 3-4 principles he's a bio on Newberry 3-4 meaning those 2 down lineman are 2 gapping(think Louis Nix, Kapron Lewis-Moore), in other words they want to eat up up to 4 blockers with 2 big guys

https://navysports.com/sports/footba...n-newberry/645


This structure was made popular by Dave Aranda when he was at Wisconsin. He's at LSU now so plays more base defense with those athletes.

This defense is going to bring its fair share of 2nd and 3rd down pressures.

Its 3rd down here against a D2 opponent week 0 and he's already bringing 7 up. Now that does NOT mean its a 7 man pressure just that he wants to mess with the QB's pre-snap read. He's bringing 5 and dropping 2 back.

As you see its more quarters (4 across) more than 2 deep. 2 deep lets you play a bend but don't break defense,(traditional navy) in quarters you can get chunk plays (new defense). If he gives Book this look I'd be coaching him to get it to Claypool quick and let our big receiver challenge that DB to tackle him in space. I think Claypool will break that tackle more than the smaller defender makes it and if he does that low risk pass still equals a 1st down.

Navy wants to blitz your blindside and create turnovers now, so Book will need to be aware of blitzes coming


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SI's ND offense vs Navy defense.

https://www.si.com/college/notredame...p-offense-navy
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Im worried about sustaining drives with our lacklustre running game. Jones is not healthy, Armstrong runs like heís 160 pounds, Cíbo, Jahmir and Davis are all intriguing but donít get enough carries. Our o line has not been good in the run game, we may need Book to run for a hundred again.

ND will need to score 30+ to win this game.
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Old 11-14-2019, 01:17 AM
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Im worried about sustaining drives with our lacklustre running game. Jones is not healthy, Armstrong runs like heís 160 pounds, Cíbo, Jahmir and Davis are all intriguing but donít get enough carries. Our o line has not been good in the run game, we may need Book to run for a hundred again.

ND will need to score 30+ to win this game.
the good thing with Navy's new defense is they will give up big passing plays if they blitz as much as they look to in this defense

It used to be 2 safeties deep,now its one or none.
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AAC may be weaker.... not weak. Three of their teams are ranked right on our tail and actually might be able to beat us.
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the good thing with Navy's new defense is they will give up big passing plays if they blitz as much as they look to in this defense

It used to be 2 safeties deep,now its one or none.
that works to NDs advantage only if the OL can pick up the blitzes and if ian book doesn't panic and bail on the play.
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Im worried about sustaining drives with our lacklustre running game. Jones is not healthy, Armstrong runs like heís 160 pounds, Cíbo, Jahmir and Davis are all intriguing but donít get enough carries. Our o line has not been good in the run game, we may need Book to run for a hundred again.

ND will need to score 30+ to win this game.
Not sustaining drives is my fear also in this one. Just could see our defense being fatigued sooner they need to. We really need to run very well in this game to win. This is a very dangerous game that ND needs to win. Navy's coach will have his team very ready on Saturday.
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I look at Navy as a source of at least 2 injuries per season for us.
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the good thing with Navy's new defense is they will give up big passing plays if they blitz as much as they look to in this defense

It used to be 2 safeties deep,now its one or none.
So this game could come down to Book being able to connect on deep balls... colour me a tad worried.
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So this game could come down to Book being able to connect on deep balls... colour me a tad worried.
maybe but it could also come down to claypool beating a smaller guy on a slant and taking it to the house, which is what I'd be calling.
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maybe but it could also come down to claypool beating a smaller guy on a slant and taking it to the house, which is what I'd be calling.
I just hope that ian book doesn't throw it 50 times in this game. if ND can run for over 300 yards vs usc then they can push navy around right (although in the usc game ND still had hainsy and krammer). ND needs to come out and be the bullies in this game and if they struggle running the ball which I think they will then I don't see ND winning this game.
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I just hope that ian book doesn't throw it 50 times in this game. if ND can run for over 300 yards vs usc then they can push navy around right (although in the usc game ND still had hainsy and krammer). ND needs to come out and be the bullies in this game and if they struggle running the ball which I think they will then I don't see ND winning this game.
Honestly, Iíve liked the line better with those guys gone.
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that works to NDs advantage only if the OL can pick up the blitzes and if ian book doesn't panic and bail on the play.
He bails on almost every play with little or no pressure so that's a big ask
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