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But, the auto industry is powerful. It seems to me that they innovate when mandated, but leave things alone when not forced. I’m not talking about creature comforts inside the autos, but miles-per-gallon engine/battery innovation. When California, the largest auto market in the largest country-wide auto market tells carmakers they can’t sell in that state unless their fleet average mpg is X, mpg innovation follows. And that’s good for the environment. I’m not taking this into a global warming discussion. I just believe the idea of decreasing carbon emissions is probably a good thing. Sometimes it takes some serious nudging to make it happen. No one on the left seems to be able to pay for their ideas, and few on the right seem to be willing to tweak their larger donors into real innovation, which means re-tooling factories and maybe decreasing profit. These are very difficult issues. They require real adults to talk with, sometimes yell at, each other, and then come up with compromises. We’ve just gotten to the point where republicans from super conservative districts can’t win primaries if they act like they might reach across party lines to get things done. Same thing on the Democrat side. |
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As for AOC and her outspoken crazy ideas, it’s really no different than Trump and his childish antics. Just yell, rant, and throw jibberish at a wall and hopes it sticks. That’s what our great nation has become-a land of blubbering idiots who want to not only measure each other penis’s, but they want their mom to lie about the size of it. Look no farther than Lavar Ball. Did a good job of promoting his kid and his brand. But when it all settles most people finally see it’s just a smoke screen. Which brings me to my point I guess...people got tired of (black) Obama. So they went (white) Trump. Completely two different spectrum in terms of ideas and philosophies. This is why I think Pete Buttlieg is getting traction. Buttlieg sounds like an honest well-spoken individual. He’s basically everything Trump is not. Hence, why I think he could give Trump a run. By the way, I don’t think I’m a fan of his. Honestly, the whole Dem party to me looks like shyt right now. |
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Her ideas aren't very comparable to Trump and things he says. Her ideas aren't her own, she's just a mouthpiece and arguably an attractive young female to channel through. She's at best an actor speaking for a radical group with an extreme socialist bend. |
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C”. You will get secret clips of her dancing and everything! There are actually news articles on the fox mentions Last edited by Jim2Dokes; 04-21-2019 at 01:36 PM. |
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Yep still alarmed at the radicalization of the left and fracturing of the party. But don't take my word for it, plenty of Democrats are leery of the new radicals like AOC. Her green deal was widely discussed everywhere, and thankfully even was shot to ribbons by her own party. What accent? The one she put on at Sharpton's event a few weeks ago? Pretty lame for any politician to resort to that in order to be "relateable". I'd call out Trump if he came here and tried on some hokey, I been to farm before, manner of speaking. It's just dumb and a back handed slap in the face to the audience. |
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Why would I care? She is actually pushing for very radical ideas that could effect everyone, concepts that I'm thoroughly opposed to. She's a member of a governing body that could enact those policies. Why wouldn't I care? Steve King is not my representative either. I haven't followed him much. He said some unPC things, and was widely/universally renounced for them. Didn't see the same thing with Omar a few weeks ago. Matter of factly it went from hate speech protection against Jews to hate speech protection for everyone....except whites. I think the whole hate speech legislation is rather silly and uncalled for. BTW I actually agree with some of Omar's premise of the overly powerful pro-Israel lobby. |
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I will ask Jesse..since we are very cordial to each other. Is it strange that Barr came out the way he did-Hours early before the report was to be released and as a defense lawyer from Trump. If Bill Clinton’s Kenneth Starr report was given to Janet Reno and she came out in defense of Clinton, you have to admit the right would be up in arms. The same goes for if Obama and if he were best friends with Anderson Cooper in how Hannity is best friends with Trump. Never can I recall a news outlet dictating a presidents agenda. The wall for instance. Congress had a deal twice and the president shot it down twice because Hannity said its not enough. Anyways, curious of your thoughts. |
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I dont watch FOX so I cant say about them dictating Trumps agenda. Overall the agenda he ran on during the election is what got him in for a lot of voters, and he has been active in trying to fulfill those pledges. |
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So that in mind, when AOC or Omar or whoever says or does something, I simply go to Yahoo and scroll through their related links. And vola article after article with the headlines about those people appear from those same liberal outlets, and probably Fox too. Even more disturbing IMO is just about every one of those articles reads the same...eerily so. Its almost as if some larger power forces these companies to drone on and on with the same unoriginal talking points and agenda. Not conspiracy mind you since most are owned by the same corporations pushing the narrative. I don't have to read or watch Fox, Breitbart, or whoever you think I do to get news. All I need is the who, what, when, where, why, and how. I can formulate my own thoughts on the news based on my beliefs and values and have an opinion, its calked free thinking. I can't help if there are other people out there who share conservative ideas, Fox etc certainly don't have a monopoly on it. I certainly enjoy podcasts like LWC, Owen Benjamin, Tim Pool, Styxhexenhammer, etc when I have time. Two of those are far from conservative thinkers, and there are others I enjoy who are liberal but support values like free speech and are against PC culture run amok. |
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Last edited by Jim2Dokes; 04-25-2019 at 02:54 PM. |
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Owen isn't self described alt right though, after all what exactly is alt right? Nor does he believe the earth is flat, he's open to discussing ideas. He does believe the moon landing was faked. Regardless his comedy is funny as hell. I highly recommend his video about how to not get killed by your wife. |
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Now the $64,000 question is whether the MSM(including FOX) constantly keeps them in the conversation, similar to Trump, just because it's click bait and outrage sells for both sides in MSM. Then the answer is solidly yes. |
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The mood landing wasn’t fake, the earth isn’t flat either. |
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BTW I never said moon landing was fake or the Earth was flat, just summing up Owen currently. |
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unPC things... lol. I thought this thread was about Mayor Pete? Smart guy, won't win though. |
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