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Old 11-04-2014, 06:22 PM
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Default BK calling out teams again for FCS scheduling

You can tell the low ranking and the comments about our body of work are really bothering him. Agree or not, I like a coach that isn't politically correct with all the coachspeak and speaks his mind.

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Old 11-04-2014, 06:55 PM
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Old 11-04-2014, 06:57 PM
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can you post the text? i can't access that site at work
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Among schools who still schedule FCS programs, most end up doing it towards the beginning of the year. This allows for a warm-up game of sorts, letting coaches play with their depth charts and (unless you're playing North Dakota State) ensure easy victories to start out the season.

The SEC doesn't quite do it that way -- schools in that conference often schedule FCS games towards the latter portion of the season, leading to arguments about the conference's out-of-conference scheduling. Arguments like this, made by Notre Dame's Brian Kelly!

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Kelly never specifically mentions any school or conference in the quote, but Mississippi State and Ole Miss both play FCS opponents this weekend (UT-Martin and Presbyterian, respectively). Every other highly ranked team is playing a conference game or a ranked opponent.

The Irish do not schedule FCS opponents. They will travel to play ranked Arizona State this weekend. Football Outsiders rates MSU's schedule as the country's 19th-toughest, with Notre Dame's at No. 29, two spots ahead of Ole Miss.
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It's about time someone start calling these schools out.
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if we played at lsu, vs auburn and vs miss state and ole miss would we have only 1 loss?
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Old 11-04-2014, 07:26 PM
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if we played at lsu, vs auburn and vs miss state and ole miss would we have only 1 loss?
I find it highly doubtful ND would go through that schedule with 1 loss.

They'd beat each of them and be 4-0.
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I find it highly doubtful ND would go through that schedule with 1 loss.

They'd beat each of them and be 4-0.
Seeing as how no one has played that combination of teams to this point, doesn't that make the statement somewhat asinine?

To this point, I'd be shocked if more than one SEC west team finished with fewer that 2 losses
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Seeing as how no one has played that combination of teams to this point, doesn't that make the statement somewhat asinine?

To this point, I'd be shocked if more than one SEC west team finished with fewer that 2 losses
Besides, the SEC loves to tout how great they are, but then complain when they have three or four "top 10" teams to play.

If you play 4 really crappy teams OOC. Then four of the bottom teams in the conference, no one can argue that Vandy, Kentucky, Mizzou et all are great teams, that gets you 8 wins if you have a good team. Then you go 2-2 or 3-1 vs the "elite" and you are a shop in for the playoff or a top 10 finish. For playing 4 good teams. In any year, ND was playing conference champs from multiple conferences, yet still playing a "weak" schedule.

Having 4 difficult games out of 12 doesn't make for some monumental task.
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If the PUNDITS want to give the SEC teams extra credit for playing each other---then they ALSO have to give a BIG DEBIT for playing three ludicrous teams a season......IIMHO it should wash out at best

Its totally absurd to hail accolades on SEC teams for losses to each other and exercise STONY SILENCE about their predilection to give themselves BYEs that our games so intermittently they can rest and regroup.

YOU NEVER--AND THATS NEVER___here anything from the SEC worshipers to even acknowledge they have THREE EXTRA UBERCUPCAKES to offset any burden of playing a few tough games....

HATS OFF TO BK FOR PRESSING THIS-----I LIKE IT!

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Besides, the SEC loves to tout how great they are, but then complain when they have three or four "top 10" teams to play.

If you play 4 really crappy teams OOC. Then four of the bottom teams in the conference, no one can argue that Vandy, Kentucky, Mizzou et all are great teams, that gets you 8 wins if you have a good team. Then you go 2-2 or 3-1 vs the "elite" and you are a shop in for the playoff or a top 10 finish. For playing 4 good teams. In any year, ND was playing conference champs from multiple conferences, yet still playing a "weak" schedule.

Having 4 difficult games out of 12 doesn't make for some monumental task.
Mizzou is your leader of the SEC East. You remember Mizzou right? The team that lost to Indiana at home? Indiana who lost to Bowling Green? Indiana who got pasted by Michigan 34-10?

Now if we were playing the transitive game here...Notre Dame would win the SEC East. Just sayin'....
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Seeing as how no one has played that combination of teams to this point, doesn't that make the statement somewhat asinine?

To this point, I'd be shocked if more than one SEC west team finished with fewer that 2 losses
it was a simple question. it isnt asinine because it will happen.

the point is to be objective and ask is our schedule easier than Alabama's? or auburns?
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Mizzou is your leader of the SEC East. You remember Mizzou right? The team that lost to Indiana at home? Indiana who lost to Bowling Green? Indiana who got pasted by Michigan 34-10?

Now if we were playing the transitive game here...Notre Dame would win the SEC East. Just sayin'....
Notre Dame probably would win the SEC East this year, especially with Gurley being out.
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it was a simple question. it isnt asinine because it will happen.

the point is to be objective and ask is our schedule easier than Alabama's? or auburns?
@FSU @ASU @USC Louisville

Now, not entirely equal, but not exactly simple. Add that there are no FCS teams and 10 Power 5 schools vs 8 or 9, and yes, I think NDs schedule is similarly difficult.

And again, we assume a big circle jerk of SEC love to determine all these teams are great.

LSU struggled to beat Wisconsin and then three cupcakes OOC.
Auburn was outplayed by K st in a win and played three other cupcakes.
Ole Miss beat Boise St and plays three cupcakes.
Miss St did not play power 5 team, but was out gained by UAB.

Then they beat each other and we call them all great.
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@FSU @ASU @USC Louisville

Now, not entirely equal, but not exactly simple. Add that there are no FCS teams and 10 Power 5 schools vs 8 or 9, and yes, I think NDs schedule is similarly difficult.

And again, we assume a big circle jerk of SEC love to determine all these teams are great.

LSU struggled to beat Wisconsin and then three cupcakes OOC.
Auburn was outplayed by K st in a win and played three other cupcakes.
Ole Miss beat Boise St and plays three cupcakes.
Miss St did not play power 5 team, but was out gained by UAB.

Then they beat each other and we call them all great.
Well and going into the year Michigan, Stanford, and North Carolina home games were not intended to be gimmes.
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Well and going into the year Michigan, Stanford, and North Carolina home games were not intended to be gimmes.
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@FSU @ASU @USC Louisville

Now, not entirely equal, but not exactly simple. Add that there are no FCS teams and 10 Power 5 schools vs 8 or 9, and yes, I think NDs schedule is similarly difficult.

And again, we assume a big circle jerk of SEC love to determine all these teams are great.

LSU struggled to beat Wisconsin and then three cupcakes OOC.
Auburn was outplayed by K st in a win and played three other cupcakes.
Ole Miss beat Boise St and plays three cupcakes.
Miss St did not play power 5 team, but was out gained by UAB.

Then they beat each other and we call them all great.
Stop it! Please stop this. It's making to much sense for even SEC folk. I don't want you to make them cry in their mason jars. SEC has lived by this motto for YEARs. I can actually remember before the BCS and before the championships, I was listening to the radio and a caller called to complain how the SEC was the best and all they do is beat up on each other and that's why they couldn't make it to the championship. The DJ basically told the caller the exact samething that you wrote. Then, the SEC got Nick Saban and Urban Meyer and enjoyed one of the best conference decades that I can remember. The gigs up SEC. No more 4 game seasons.
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it was a simple question. it isnt asinine because it will happen.

the point is to be objective and ask is our schedule easier than Alabama's? or auburns?
that can be difficult to ascertain since ND schedules most of its opponents years ahead of conference schools. when ND set up it's 2014 schedule, it was certainly looking like it was the toughest schedule in the country, as i believe we would have all agreed two years ago. ND typically lines up at least one traditionally extra difficult game per season to make up for the lack of a conference championship. who would have thought 4 years ago that the SEC east would be nowhere near as strong as the west??? it's a crap shoot. that being said, i believe it is predetermined that the SEC will pretty much play the same opponents year in and year out with the exception of their ooc opponents who continue to be FCS cupcakes. PT, just as an aside, when is the last time the SEC scheduled an ooc opponent north of the mason dixon line past, let's say, nov 10th?? even if it's N. Dakota state??? it has, and never will happen.............
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Well and going into the year Michigan, Stanford, and North Carolina home games were not intended to be gimmes.
What the hell.............I was right on the verge...........damn tease.
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Well and going into the year Michigan, Stanford, and North Carolina home games were not intended to be gimmes.
Gimmies???? They beat Stanford by 3 and NC by 7. Tell me again why the Irish are dropping in the polls.
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if we played at lsu, vs auburn and vs miss state and ole miss would we have only 1 loss?
Why did you post this in this particular thread? This has nothing to do with the topic at hand.
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Why did you post this in this particular thread? This has nothing to do with the topic at hand.
it ha much to do with schedule strength in a thread about nd coach busting teams for playing weak teams
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