Could ND still make playoffs?

[corysold]

I know, I know. Crazy talk. They don't deserve it. They just got rolled by Miami. Yada yada yada.

But, to be an optimist, I think there is still a path for ND to make the playoffs and it isn't all that crazy.

Ok. St. beats OU in Big12 Title game.
Alabama beats Auburn and Georgia.
Wisconsin beats OSU.
Miami beats Clemson.

That gives you Alabama, Wisconsin and Miami with 0 losses.

Then, every other contender has 2+. You could argue ND, with 4-5 wins over ranked teams and both losses to top 10 teams has the best resume of that group.

You'd have Oklahoma St, Oklahoma, Clemson, Georgia and Notre Dame, with OU, Georgia and Clemson coming off of losses all with 2 losses. Would a Big 12 title put OSU over ND? A 2 loss SEC team couldn't be the second team in right?

Did I miss any other contenders? We aren't that far from total chaos at this point.

[case29]

Originally Posted by corysold

I know, I know. Crazy talk. They don't deserve it. They just got rolled by Miami. Yada yada yada.

But, to be an optimist, I think there is still a path for ND to make the playoffs and it isn't all that crazy.

Ok. St. beats OU in Big12 Title game.
Alabama beats Auburn and Georgia.
Wisconsin beats OSU.
Miami beats Clemson.

That gives you Alabama, Wisconsin and Miami with 0 losses.

Then, every other contender has 2+. You could argue ND, with 4-5 wins over ranked teams and both losses to top 10 teams has the best resume of that group.

You'd have Oklahoma St, Oklahoma, Clemson, Georgia and Notre Dame, with OU, Georgia and Clemson coming off of losses all with 2 losses. Would a Big 12 title put OSU over ND? A 2 loss SEC team couldn't be the second team in right?

Did I miss any other contenders? We aren't that far from total chaos at this point.

if grandma had balls she'd be grandpa. It's over dude

[corysold]

Originally Posted by case29

if grandma had balls she'd be grandpa. It's over dude

Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until ND decides it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!

[case29]

Originally Posted by corysold

Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until ND decides it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!

Damn you, here's the link

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[KellyisNasty]

I dont want them to go

[irish21]

Originally Posted by KellyisNasty

I dont want them to go

This. Would be embarrassing. Saturday night looked like a Bob Davie ND game.

[echo88]

I have a question...why do u want ND to go to the playoffs?

I dont want them to go unless theyre going to be competitive....

We should want endeavors that are likely to yield positive results.

Now we know that we are going to have an incredibly tough time winning our new years bowl game...depending on who we play...and thats IF we win out...

[ndmike88]

Shake your head. Something is obviously loose.

[EddieAngel]

Originally Posted by echo88

I have a question...why do u want ND to go to the playoffs?

I dont want them to go unless theyre going to be competitive....

We should want endeavors that are likely to yield positive results.

Now we know that we are going to have an incredibly tough time winning our new years bowl game...depending on who we play...and thats IF we win out...

ND going to the playoffs is like getting together with a really big girl. You might regret it, you might not want anyone to see it, but you still want to try it out and see if it might turn out well.

[Jersey Irish]

Originally Posted by corysold

Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until ND decides it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!

Didn't know the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor. Where's that in the history books or is CNN reporting false news again.
As far as history is concerned Georgia would get in over ND cause of that 1-point victory.

[The eND]

At this rate we will probably end up playing Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, TCU, Auburn or Ohio State.

How do we like our chances in bowl game vs any of those teams?

[Rocketsan]

Originally Posted by EddieAngel

ND going to the playoffs is like getting together with a really big girl. You might regret it, you might not want anyone to see it, but you still want to try it out and see if it might turn out well.

I miss big girl love. Very generous lovers...

[NDNorm]

Originally Posted by The eND

At this rate we will probably end up playing Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, TCU, Auburn or Ohio State.

How do we like our chances in bowl game vs any of those teams?

Maybe it's because I've seen them play more than any of those other teams, but I would NOT welcome a match-up with Mayfield and OU.

[Uteck]

Originally Posted by The eND

At this rate we will probably end up playing Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, TCU, Auburn or Ohio State.

How do we like our chances in bowl game vs any of those teams?

Depends on Wimbush's development from here on out.

If Wimbush improves his passing, ND could beat every single one of these teams. It would mean incredible strong execution from both the O and D.

[corysold]

Originally Posted by echo88

I have a question...why do u want ND to go to the playoffs?

I dont want them to go unless theyre going to be competitive....

We should want endeavors that are likely to yield positive results.

Now we know that we are going to have an incredibly tough time winning our new years bowl game...depending on who we play...and thats IF we win out...

Why not? Sure they might get blown out. But they might get blown out vs Auburn in the Cotton Bowl too. Should we only let them in the Armed Forces Bowl? ND can play with Wisconsin in this scenario. Alabama is more power than speed, so who knows. Miami on a neutral field? Why not give it a go.

Ohio St got blown out, should they not want to be in the playoffs? Georgia? It was one game, not the end of the season.

[corysold]

Originally Posted by Jersey Irish

Didn't know the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor. Where's that in the history books or is CNN reporting false news again.
As far as history is concerned Georgia would get in over ND cause of that 1-point victory.

Have you never seen Animal House?

[CanadianIrish]

Originally Posted by corysold

Have you never seen Animal House?

Clearly not

[ndmike88]

Obviously a bowl game is good for the extra practice. But a BCS bowl game ? With Kelly's track record the Irish would fail miserably.
The Irish are better suited for a 2nd tier bowl like the Pinstripe Bowl. At least they won't get embarrassed.
If they end up 10-2 prepare for ND to get their butts handed to them in a major bowl game.

[corysold]

Originally Posted by ndmike88

Obviously a bowl game is good for the extra practice. But a BCS bowl game ? With Kelly's track record the Irish would fail miserably.
The Irish are better suited for a 2nd tier bowl like the Pinstripe Bowl. At least they won't get embarrassed.
If they end up 10-2 prepare for ND to get their butts handed to them in a major bowl game.

You don't think ND could beat Wisconsin? Or Penn St? Or TCU? Or Oklahoma St?

Assuming Clemson, Alabama, Oklahoma and Ohio St./Miami are in the playoffs, Auburn is about the only team I don't think ND would beat/lose close to in the bowls. I think ND could beat Miami on a neutral field if they played again.

[ndomer4]

There's only two 2 loss teams with a shot and that's OSU and Auburn.

There are only a few teams I see as good match ups if we somehow beat Stanford, which I don't get why people here think is a given.

[ndmike88]

Originally Posted by corysold

You don't think ND could beat Wisconsin? Or Penn St? Or TCU? Or Oklahoma St?

Assuming Clemson, Alabama, Oklahoma and Ohio St./Miami are in the playoffs, Auburn is about the only team I don't think ND would beat/lose close to in the bowls. I think ND could beat Miami on a neutral field if they played again.

ND & Wisconsin would be a good game. OKS would have a field day against the Irish secondary. TCU and Ped State I think would beat ND.

[echo88]

Originally Posted by corysold

You don't think ND could beat Wisconsin? Or Penn St? Or TCU? Or Oklahoma St?

Assuming Clemson, Alabama, Oklahoma and Ohio St./Miami are in the playoffs, Auburn is about the only team I don't think ND would beat/lose close to in the bowls. I think ND could beat Miami on a neutral field if they played again.

Ummm no. Do you? Lol

[goirish83]

Originally Posted by echo88

Ummm no. Do you? Lol

This team beat USC by 5 td's , msu and nc st by 3 td's. One bad showing doesn't erase all of that. Unlike 15 they actually have had some quality wins this year. There are a handful of teams I would want no part of but nd could certainly hang with the teams Cory listed.

In saying that Cory I'm sorry but I disagree I think if nd played Miami again it would be just as ugly.

[echo88]

Originally Posted by goirish83

This team beat USC by 5 td's , msu and nc st by 3 td's. One bad showing doesn't erase all of that. Unlike 15 they actually have had some quality wins this year. There are a handful of teams I would want no part of but nd could certainly hang with the teams Cory listed.

In saying that Cory I'm sorry but I disagree I think if nd played Miami again it would be just as ugly.

41 - 8 is not a bad day. That's a massacre. By a team with literally the same pedigree as NC State... That's how bad we lost to Bama in 2012. I no longer have confidence that we will even finish the season unscathed. Bk was scared. Our QB was scared.

I could just as easily argue that if we played USC again that we wouldnt beat them by 5 Tds. And so could you, by that logic....

[goirish83]

Originally Posted by echo88

41 - 8 is not a bad day. That's a massacre. By a team with literally the same pedigree as NC State... That's how bad we lost to Bama in 2012. I no longer have confidence that we will even finish the season unscathed. Bk was scared. Our QB was scared.

I could just as easily argue that if we played USC again that we wouldnt beat them by 5 Tds. And so could you, by that logic....

And osu was massacred by Iowa when they lost by 31 and michigan was massacred by psu earlier this year, it happens. Hell auburn just blasted Georgia off the field, college football is a fickle game.

Look I don't disagree our team played and looked as scared as the coach leading them and we've seen it too many times but that doesn't take away from some of the quality wins we've seen this year.