Men's Basketball...

[Donjuan]

...is getting pretty hard to watch anymore. We all know what the problems are, no need to go through it again. But there needs to be a change in philosophy, coaching, and the types of recruits we go after. I think with a new coach, the other two aspects would probably change and after watching today's loss to lowly Rutgers with their 1-4 Big East record, I think change is exactly what Notre Dame needs.

We shouldn't hear our head coach talking about being content with being "in the discussion" for middle of the pack honors. Winners are never satisfied and Brey seems to be okay with barely being a bubble team.


**and by bubble team I mean for the NIT

[ND FANATIC]

amongst our well documented problems, Brey needs to play more guys. Having a bench that goes 2 deep is going to wear out a team by halfway through a season.....

[Donjuan]

It's weird how ND's regresses the more they play. Each game has gotten exponentially worse than the previous. I won't even begin to assess ND's pitfalls, there are just too many--but there has to be a change at the top.

[ND FANATIC]

It looks that way...I'm not expecting a final four, but you could at least play a whole season with a little passion.....sounds like what we use to say about our football team....:frusty:

[Jersey Irish]

Brey steadfastly refuses to play more than 7. This must mean the recruits on the end of the bench he has no faith in. you can't play a 7 man rotation in the BE and survive, he should know that now
He steadfastly plays man to man and he does not have an atheltic enough team to play man to man in the BE
Losing to Rutgers sucks big time they were 0 for freakin 9 in the league and lost their last 2 games by 20 and 25 and every paper in Jersey wanted the coach's head
How bout Brey's head? It's time

PS Ever notice has players regress under Brey?
Chris Thomas for one now Harangody for another

[Donjuan]

Brey steadfastly refuses to play more than 7. This must mean the recruits on the end of the bench he has no faith in. you can't play a 7 man rotation in the BE and survive, he should know that now
He steadfastly plays man to man and he does not have an atheltic enough team to play man to man in the BE
Losing to Rutgers sucks big time they were 0 for freakin 9 in the league and lost their last 2 games by 20 and 25 and every paper in Jersey wanted the coach's head
How bout Brey's head? It's time

PS Ever notice has players regress under Brey?
Chris Thomas for one now Harangody for another

I disagree with the man-to-man. Brey's known for running a soft zone. He implemented the man-to-man last week due to Rutgers making their 3 pointers/outside shots.

The zone is what kills us IMO. Nobody accountable for a man leads to many offensive rebounds for the other team. And if you've watched ND over the last decade you'd know that among other things, ND teams have been awful rebounders. Not having a specified man to put your ass on definitely adds to the number of possessions in which we scratch our heads wondering how the other team could score 7 points in one possession.

This tends to hurt ND pretty bad as our guys are usually not as athletic as the teams we play against making any type of fundamental mistake, that much more glaring.

And about player regression. CT hurt his knee and was never the same, not on Brey. Harangody has zero help this year in big games, not on Brey. Blame the Harangody thing on losing K-Mac, Ayers and over-all team chemistry, besides being double-teamed most games...

**I will note that Brey seems to give too much rope to his stars leading to crazy shot selection and a predictable offense

[ND FANATIC]

Brey steadfastly refuses to play more than 7. This must mean the recruits on the end of the bench he has no faith in. you can't play a 7 man rotation in the BE and survive, he should know that now
He steadfastly plays man to man and he does not have an atheltic enough team to play man to man in the BE
Losing to Rutgers sucks big time they were 0 for freakin 9 in the league and lost their last 2 games by 20 and 25 and every paper in Jersey wanted the coach's head
How bout Brey's head? It's time

PS Ever notice has players regress under Brey?
Chris Thomas for one now Harangody for another

Especially with the talent level of the 7 we have to play....

[Sligo]

I'll still be rooting for them tonight at 9 pm ET. They're playing Cincinnati at home. Coverage on ESPN/ESPN2.

[OKCIrish99]

I'll still be rooting for them tonight at 9 pm ET. They're playing Cincinnati at home. Coverage on ESPN/ESPN2.Yeah hope they get it done tonight. They should. IU gave the Boilers a scare tonight also before Purdue prevailed.

[Sligo]

Coach Kelly is courtside tonight watching nd beat cinn (so far). 48-37

[SirJohn]

Thnk Sligo unfortunately I was watching the cough Untouchables on TV.

[OHARA]

I had never seen them play like that! Confident and in control. And they didn't fall apart. Sweet!

[Sligo]

They won down in Florida yesterday..... 65-62

http://www.und.com/sports/m-baskbl/recaps/020710aaa.html

[SirJohn]

Thanks Sligo.:grin: I almost cried that someone found some ND news.

[Donjuan]

The men are playing right now over on ESPN 2 if anyone's interested. :grin:

[jfschellcrna]

The men are playing right now over on ESPN 2 if anyone's interested. :grin:
down by 5..............

[Donjuan]

Yeah it wasn't worth watching, same story.

[BI5224]

Anyone watching the Louisivlle game? Jack Cooley looks eerily like Luke Harangody, not as thick though.

[IrishNYgirl]

Anyone watching the Louisivlle game? Jack Cooley looks eerily like Luke Harangody, not as thick though.

LOL! and now he's done.

[BI5224]

3 ND guys have fouled out. I don't expect a win in the second OT.

[irishndfan2]

refs have been terrible for the irish tonight, so many missed calls. I have gained so much more respect for tory jackson after this game, the way he has handled the press all night along with playing the whole game is incredible

[ND FANATIC]

11 seconds, 2OT, down by 2 - do we win or lose.....

[irishndfan2]

refs were terrible, but come on man you gotta get a shot off at the end

[ND FANATIC]

Unf*&king believable - we don't even get a shot off.......

[irishndfan2]

NIT here we come again

[BI5224]

Kiss the big dance goodbye.

[irishndfan2]

man that is terrible, i cant get over they didnt even get a shot off, terrible terrible terrible! i will say this though gotta give the bench players some love for their performance, ND was 13.5 underdogs goin into the game, still though you gotta want the win

[ND FANATIC]

Kiss the big dance goodbye.

That invite was lost in the mail a long time ago....we'll be lucky to make the NIT the way its going.....

[IrishNYgirl]

Come on.... keep hope alive! We just had two big wins!

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/campusrivalry/post/2010/02/notre-dame-makes-a-major-statement-on-the-ncaa-tournament-bubble/1

[irishrick]

FAN , WE HAD BETTER GET IT GOING OR THEY WON'T INVITES US ? IS LUKE DONE FOR THE SEASON / as for coach brey, i think that he just might get a pep talk from jack , if he hasn't already . next year will be the last if he continue on the present schedule of wins . IMO.:-o what say you ?

[irishziggy]

No doubt ND is in now. They've been playing great since Harangody went down.

[BI5224]

Kiss the big dance goodbye.

Insert foot in mouth......

What a hell of a turn-a-round. :clap:

[ND FANATIC]

Same here....Brey saved his job, and we will make the big dance - who would have thunk it a month ago......