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[irishrick]

does anyone think that Brett should retire,? i feel that they need to get an offensive line and the packers would be a good team , Colorado landed a young coach, from BState, good move, sir john any comments on this 8)

[SirJohn]

:) Jeese that came up just tonight with my Air Force daughter here in town. She is BIG Notre Dame, GB PACKERS and Bret. She's always pestering me for Pix of Samar... :D I said he should retire. She went into DEPTH about bad receivers, dropped passes, hurting people and scuds players. :lol: I know her so then now I have to abide by her judgement. Maybe another year?

[SirJohn]

FYI:

JUst received from another Irish/Packer fan this from Sporting news.
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Packers need new coaches for Favre
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Posted: December 19, 2005


The feeling inside the Lambeau Field locker room and offices is QB Brett Favre will be back next season. But it's not a feeling anyone is certain of. Favre has not revealed his intentions, and the truth is he probably hasn't made a decision.

If Favre were to return, however, the Packers would be wise to bring in a coach or two who will get in his face and ride him about poor decision making. He still has the skills to be a Pro Bowl quarterback. What has been missing, aside from his supporting cast, is a dominant influence such as Mike Holmgren.

Once Favre became a legend and the coaches who helped make him one left Green Bay, it became uncomfortable for other coaches to criticize Favre too harshly. It's not uncommon for coaching staffs to tiptoe around players with Favre's status. ...


Often when a player is injured, his team considers him less valuable. But in the case of Ravens free safety Ed Reed, absence made the heart grow fonder.

With Reed sidelined for five weeks with an ankle sprain, the Ravens struggled with communication in the secondary and were prone to blown coverages. Their safeties also failed to make plays outside the hash marks.

Since Reed's return, the secondary has picked it up remarkably. That's why the Ravens are so eager to extend his contract. ...

Lost in Tiki Barber's incredible season has been the emergence of his Giants teammate guard Chris Snee. It has not taken long for the second-year player to develop into one of the better guards in the NFC. Snee is an outstanding run blocker because of his ability to play with leverage and toughness, and he has improved his pass protection this season. ...

Why are NFL owners beginning to sniff around about Bears defensive coordinator Ron Rivera as a head coaching candidate? Many reasons. Even though Lovie Smith has a defensive background, he entrusts Rivera to call all the defenses, and Rivera has done an excellent job.

Rivera is a wonderful leader and communicator and a people person. Players respect him. Rivera has the pedigree, having played for the 1985 Bears, one of the greatest Super Bowl champions. He has learned from great minds such as Andy Reid, Jim Johnson and Buddy Ryan.

If the Bears lose Rivera, the leading candidate to replace him will be linebackers coach Bob Babich, who also has done excellent work. ...

Since losing Priest Holmes, the Chiefs have made dramatic changes in their running attack. With Holmes, the Chiefs were an "optional hole" running team. That means they would run a lot of stretch plays with a wide zone blocking scheme, then allow Holmes to choose his lane. This would play into Holmes' patience and ability to get to the perimeter and make tacklers miss in space.

With new starter Larry Johnson, the Chiefs have become a "directional hole" team. That means the running lane is predetermined. Most of their runs are downhill to take advantage of Johnson's power and straight-ahead speed. The key to the transformation has been the versatility of the Chiefs' linemen. ...

The most impressive aspect of Carson Palmer's play, in the estimation of Bengals coaches, might be his ability to avoid mental mistakes. Quarterbacks in their second year of starting typically are prone to numerous mental errors, but Palmer has made hardly any since early in the season. He learns from his mistakes and doesn't repeat them. He has been good about throwing the ball where defenders can't get to it and living for another down.

[bluester2000]

I feel like Brett Fav-ra (Something About Mary) has earned the right to retire on his own terms. With someone like JoePa, he's hurting his team, his school, his players, etc by hanging on too long.

Farve on the other hand doesn't get to hide on the sidelines if he does something stupid. He gets his head knocked off. So more power to him. Also, I think he can still do it, if the PackAttack weren't so revolting.

There are a lot of QBs that were able to hang on much longer than Favre has been and been successful because of the talent around them: Marino, Elway, Montana. All the them were able to be productive deep into their 30s because there teams didn't abondon them.

[SirJohn]

:D Hey bluester, you made some good points.

When I look around at the football scene I am amased at the messs Ark, Tenn, Pitt.,etc. the entire SEC, crumbled, Mich has probs. Move to NFL some are as well. I look for common factos cause Notre Dame had this problem, yet over came it. 'Cure pill.'

At Green Bay it's simply "Who the Hail is in charge here?"

Sherma talks in Puplic, Bret does, other players do Administration does. Everyone has an opinion, that's the old too many cooks spoil the broth and too many chief's and not enough Indians. Kill pill is always fire the HC, which in Ty's case I'm thankful for.

But in no way shape or form are GB people all on the same page.

Bret is leader on the field, in public he should just shut up ditto players. Team meetings for all that with the coach. Are the plays being sent in the problem? Do they only work 30% of the time and players have no confidance? Is that the play caller, Bret, or upstairs? Is that play beyond the talent on the field? If the GM or admin grumbling in public, that affects the Coaches, fans and players.

Coach Weis got everyone on the same page, fans, players, Jenkins, White, coaches, support staff,Boosters and trustees. Message was most likely. "We all have a common goal. Make Nore Dame great again." Click! it worked.

[irishrick]

you could put Payton manning in green bay for a game and he would do a lot of the same things that Brett does, Bret , needs some protection so he dosen.t have to force it , its all about a couple of seconds more time to set and throw to prim or sec receiver, Brett is doing the job get him some lineman, hell look at tom Brady, if you took a 2 seconds from his look time he would be in just about the same as Brett is now, get him some line.